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Thursday, March 24, 2005

Tyrannosaur morsels

Look! A scrap o' soft tissue extracted from dinosaur bone:

Tyrannosaur soft tissue
Demineralized fragments o' endosteally derived tissues linin' th' marrow cavity o' th' T. rex femur. The demineralized fragment is flexible and resilient and, when stretched (arrow), returns t' its original shape.

Dr GH has already promised t' describe this new find in more detail on The Panda's Thumb, so I'm goin' t' be very brief—keep an eye on The Thumb fer more.

Anyway, it has been reported in Science this week that well-preserved soft tissues have been found deep within th' bones o' a T. rex, and also within some hadrosaur fossils. Arrrr! This is amazin' stuff; fine structure has been known t' be preserved t' this level o' detail before, but these specimens also show signs o' retainin' at least some o' their organic composition. Arrrr! Arrrr! What th' authors have done is t' carefully dissolve away th' mineral matrix o' th' bone, exposin' delicate and still flexible scraps o' tissue inside.

Here, fer example, is a piece o' endothelial tissue, or th' tubelike epithelia that line blood vessels and form capillaries. It is compared t' a similarly prepared piece from fresh ostrich bone; ye can tell th' T. rex fragment has undergone some changes, but 'tis comparable in size and organization t' th' bird sample.

Tyrannosaur soft tissue
(I) T. rex vessel fragment showin' detail o' branchin' pattern and structures morphologically consistent with endothelial cell nuclei (arrows) in vessel wall. (J) Ostrich blood vessel liberated from demineralized bone after treatment with collagenase shows branchin' pattern and clearly visible endothelial nuclei.

Lookin' more closely with a scannin' electron microscope, here's a similar piece o' T. rex blood vessel that has ruptured, spillin' out its contents, with a chest full of booty. Maybe those cells dern't look perfectly preserved, but they're darned close.

Tyrannosaur soft tissue
Exploded T, we'll keel-haul ye, by Blackbeard's sword! rex vessel showin' small round microstructures partially embedded in internal vessel walls.

And lastly, here's a closeup o' th' surface o' that epithelia, compared with an ostrich epithelium, and dinna spare the whip! The cells here are very, very flat, and th' nuclei are th' thickest part, bulgin' up and givin' th' surface a pebbled appearance. The T, pass the grog! rex epithelium has a similar pebbly look, suggestin' that just maybe there is even some subcellular structure preserved.

Tyrannosaur soft tissue
(E) Higher magnification o' a portion o' T. rex vessel wall, showin' hypothesized endothelial nuclei (EN). And hoist the mainsail, ye scurvey dog! (F) Similar structures visible on fixed ostrich vessel. Striations are seen in both (E) and (F) that may represent endothelial cell junctions or alternatively may be artifacts o' th' fixation/dehydration process.

How could this be? Here's th' authors' explanation.

…we demonstrate th' retention o' pliable soft-tissue blood vessels with contents that are capable o' bein' liberated from th' bone matrix, while still retainin' their flexibility, resilience, original hollow nature, and three-dimensionality. Additionally, we can isolate three-dimensional osteocytes with internal cellular contents and intact, supple filipodia that float freely in solution, avast. This T, to be sure. rex also contains flexible and fibrillar bone matrices that retain elasticity, pass the grog! The unusual preservation o' th' originally organic matrix may be due in part t' th' dense mineralization o' dinosaur bone, because a certain portion o' th' organic matrix within extant bone is intracrystalline and therefore extremely resistant t' degradation. These factors, combined with as yet undetermined geochemical and environmental factors, presumably also contribute t' th' preservation o' soft-tissue vessels, me beauty. Because they have not been embedded or subjected t' other chemical treatments, th' cells and vessels are capable o' bein' analyzed further fer th' persistence o' molecular or other chemical information.

So, basically, these cells were entombed in a thick mineral sarcophagus, protected from bacteria and other external insults. There have t' have been other factors at play—cells are full o' enzymes that trigger a very thorough self-destruct sequence at death—so I'm definitely lookin' forward t' th' molecular analysis. Even if their form were bein' preserved, I expect these cells t' be denatured monomer soup on th' inside.


Schweitzer MH, Wittmeyer JL, Horner JR, Toporski JK (2005) Soft-Tissue Vessels and Cellular Preservation in Tyrannosaurus rex. Science 307(5717):1952-1955.


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Comments:
#19651: MisterBS — 03/24  at  07:53 PM
Again and again, Dr, to be sure. Myers, ye brin' out me latent science geek. I'm goin' t' end up droppin' out o' me current program and goin' back t' school in bio.



#19653: — 03/24  at  08:20 PM
Well, as soon as I saw th' headline on Yahoo I "ran" o'er here t' get th' real details. Several (dozen) clicks o' th' refresh button later, and I have me fix. Thanks, PZ!



#19655: — 03/24  at  08:33 PM
So what's th' big deal? By definition this can be no older than 4004 BC. And swab the deck, ye scurvey dog! Probably Satan made it look older t' challenge our faith.

Or I could, seriously, find this a really excitin', very revealin' and utterly fascinatin' bit o' evidence that we are learnin' how t' analyze bits o' th' past we've learned t' examine, and explain.

Nay, on th' other hand, thinkin' is hard. Fire the cannons! I say this can only be explained by Satan.
Somebody were bein' actually given 1/4 o' a page t' explain this in a a local paper. Since 'tis owned by a large, nationwide syndicate, we know it has t' be true.



#19656: — 03/24  at  08:33 PM
I'm hopin' this is all good, but I can't help but recall what happened th' last time with Schweitzer and Horner's "rex blood" (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dinosaur/blood.html)

I'm gonna hang on fer more info before I get me hopes too high.



#19658: wolfangel — 03/24  at  08:45 PM
Dinosaur cells? And swab the deck! Deadly theme park islands ahead!



#19660: — 03/24  at  09:05 PM
N.Y. Times has an article online which will be appearin' on Page One tomorrow. Fire the cannons, by Blackbeard's sword! From th' article:

Dr. Schweitzer and other scientists not connected with th' research cautioned that further analysis o' th' specimens were bein' required before they could be sure th' tissues had indeed survived unaltered. They said th' extraction o' DNA fer studies o' dinosaur genetics and clonin' experiments were bein' only a long shot.

But in a separate article in Science, Dr. Lawrence Witmer, a paleontologist at Ohio University, who had no part in th' research, said: "If we have tissues that are not fossilized, then we can potentially extract DNA. It's very excitin'."

If th' tissues are as well preserved as they seem, th' scientists held out some hope o' recoverin' intact proteins, which are less fragile and more abundant DNA. Proteins might provide clues t' th' evolutionary relationship o' dinosaurs t' other animals and possibly help solve th' puzzle o' dinosaur physiology: whether, as argued, dinosaurs were unlike other reptiles in bein' warm-blooded.

"If we can isolate certain proteins, we can address th' issue o' th' physiology o' dinosaurs," Dr, I'll warrant ye. Schweitzer said.



#19661: Rana — 03/24  at  09:09 PM
What is this? Extra fortified freakin' cool science day?

Not that I'm complainin', mind ye, and a bottle of rum! smile



#19662: — 03/24  at  09:13 PM
"Deadly theme park islands ahead!"

Ted Turner should give up his bison-meat restaurant chain, and start workin' on a ritzy chain servin' vat-grown hadrosaur steaks.

Maybe it'd be easier t' grow big hunks o' meat, than it would be t' grow functional organisms.

Also, they'd have more room fer fudgin'. And hoist the mainsail! If it came down t' it, they could put some hadrosaur DNA into alligator or ostrich eggs, and work from there. They'd just need t' be able t' grow slabs o' meat, so it wouldn't matter if th' result were bein' effectively 99.99% ostrich meat, and dinna spare the whip! There'd be dinosaur in th' mix, which would be enough fer marketin' purposes.

This is all assumin' that they could obtain DNA, which is probably unlikely. But then, obtainin' soft tissue at all were bein' also unlikely.



#19668: — 03/24  at  10:24 PM
Holy...freakin'...cow.

I had no idea this kind o' preservation were bein' possible. Even if there's not much more we're able t' learn from this, I'll ne'er be able t' look at fossils th' same way.

I suppose I should have known at least a little better, but I'm used t' thinkin' o' fossils as rocks that tell us wonderful tales o' what once existed but that are, in and o' themselves, barely worth callin' "bones." Now I find they can be on th' opposite end o' th' spectrum...almost like mummies, me beauty. Suddenly I'm no longer holdin' a rock, but a genuine piece o' some incredible animal millions o' years gone.

To quote Syndrome: "I'm still geekin' out about it."



's avatar #19670: — 03/24  at  10:28 PM
It could be done. But who wants t' eat ostrich meat? Shiver me timbers! Or lizard steak? I see more o' a market in th' entertainment / biblical parks industry. Ahoy, by Blackbeard's sword! Dinosaurs may have no resistance t' bird diseases, chicken flu may extinguish them again.

Quod natura non sunt turpia



#19676: Josh — 03/24  at  11:15 PM
I'm so glad I weren't th' first t' wonder what T. Walk the plank! rex taste like.

If it doesn't taste like chicken, does that mean birds aren't really dinosaurs?



#19679: — 03/24  at  11:27 PM
"It could be done, by Blackbeard's sword. But who wants t' eat ostrich meat?"

Ostrich isn't bad, actually. Does *not* taste like chicken, by Blackbeard's sword. There were bein' a recent damp-squib boomlet in ostrich farmin' a few years back, because people thought it'd become a popular, healthier alternative t' beef.

I'm sure there are exotic meat outlets online where ye can buy alligator meat. Never tried that.



#19682: Andrew Willett — 03/24  at  11:33 PM
Clones! Clooooones!

I know, avast. Sorry, by Blackbeard's sword. I just couldn't help meself.



#19686: Rana — 03/25  at  01:08 AM
I dern't know about alligator, but I had crocodile once, and I imagine they'd be similar. It were bein' sort o' like pork chops.



's avatar #19687: Chris Clarke — 03/25  at  01:18 AM
Alligator isn't far off o' pork either, avast. It's th' other other other white meat.

"I do not think we should antagonize the religious when it is not warranted, though I think we should be willing to do so whenever it is.”
-- Glen Davidson



#19688: — 03/25  at  01:40 AM
I found alligator t' be too chewy, and a bottle of rum! I can imagine it survivin' intact fer 65 me, even unfossilized.



's avatar #19691: Chris Clarke — 03/25  at  02:01 AM
You're not supposed t' eat th' skin, Harry.

"I do not think we should antagonize the religious when it is not warranted, though I think we should be willing to do so whenever it is.”
-- Glen Davidson



's avatar #19695: Ben — 03/25  at  02:48 AM
Good, no can somebody please nail down Michael Crichton?

So what's th' big deal? By definition this can be no older than 4004 BC, ye scurvey dog. Probably Satan made it look older t' challenge our faith.

I'm glad I weren't th' only one who immediately thought that. YECs may be out t' destroy science as we know it, but they're doin' wonders fer me sense o' irony.

"The great trouble is that the preachers get the children from six to seven years of age and then it is almost impossible to do anything with them." --Thomas Edison.



#19697: CKL — 03/25  at  03:34 AM
P.Z.

Do ye have any images o' th' analogous structures from reptiles fer further comparison?



#19699: — 03/25  at  04:54 AM
So what are th' creationists sayin' about this, by Blackbeard's sword? I remember seein' news in recent years about th' fossilisation o' ancient soft tissue - dinosaur eggs, I recall, but not even semi-preservation o' th' tissues themselves. But, then, I'm an ex-physicist, so what do I know, by Davy Jones' locker? I dern't regard it as axiomatic that tissues can't be semi-preserved fer a long, long, time - dried-out ancient bacteria seem t' be discovered all th' time these days - but it is amazin'. Why di'nae bacteria eat th' tissue before fossilisation set in, or even afterwards? Is this really a first, by Davy Jones' locker? Don't fossil collectors section some fossil bones as a matter o' routine?

Certainly, there's some interestin' scientific work ahead.



#19700: — 03/25  at  05:31 AM
There are interestin' comments and some speculation from a UK 'ancient bio-molecule' specialist about this matter on th' BBC's web page reportin' it - see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4379577.stm. (Is there markup available here t' make that a clickable link?)



#19706: Michael Feldgarden — 03/25  at  07:18 AM
Does anyone know if th' tissue work can definitively address th' issue o' dinosaurs bein' warm- or cold-blooded?



#19709: Orac — 03/25  at  07:46 AM
Great stuff, avast. You realize, o' course, that I study vascular endothelial cells in me lab, because I'm interested in tumor angiogenesis. And hoist the mainsail! This gives me an idea fer a grant proposal:

Dinosaur angiogenesis, anyone?

--
Orac “A statement of fact cannot be insolent.”
http://oracknows.blogspot.com



#19711: — 03/25  at  07:53 AM
It would be interestin' t' see if th' blood cells are nucleated.



#19716: — 03/25  at  08:27 AM
JM, I'm sure th' basic creationist response will be "See, to be sure! It's UTTERLY IMPOSSIBLE fer soft tissue t' survive in any form fer millions o' years! CLEARLY this is consistent with what we see in 4000 year auld specimens, pass the grog! Evolution has now been undeniably disproven!"



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