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Tuesday, August 02, 2005

Bush endorses Intelligent Design creationism

It's only a small fillip on the vast rococo monument to incompetence, anti-science, and lies that the Republican party has erected over our country, but I take it personally.

George W. Bush has endorsed Intelligent Design creationism's plan to corrupt education.

In a wide-ranging question-and-answer session with a small group of reporters, Bush essentially endorsed efforts by Christian conservatives to give intelligent design equal standing with the theory of evolution in the nation's schools.

It comes from an incredibly badly written article that then goes on and on to parrot the Discovery Institute's talking points. It really isn't just Bush, who is only the Moron-In-Chief, but an abysmally stupid press corps that is responsible for the propagation of this horribly poor idea.

Bush compared the current debate to earlier disputes over "creationism," a related view that adheres more closely to biblical explanations. As governor of Texas, Bush said students should be exposed to both creationism and evolution.

On Monday the president said he favors the same approach for intelligent design "so people can understand what the debate is about."

Here's what the debate is about.

Scientists have established the fact of evolution with thousands of lines of evidence and the work of hundreds of thousands of researchers. This idea is based on material evidence and repeated experiment, extensively documented in the scientific literature.

This evidence flatly contradicts literal religious accounts. Religious conservatives have mounted a long running social and political campaign to get their falsified dogma treated as the truth, despite the absence of any material or logical support for their position.

This debate is not about assessing the evidence, but about getting faith-based bullshit taught as science.

And that is what should be taught: teachers, we need to get in front of our students and expose them to both sides. We need to stand up and plainly state that creationism is a lie and any attempt to incorporate faith and the supernatural into science is as destructive to the enterprise as would be requiring religion to provide concrete, repeatable tests of their beliefs.

That's the only rational version of "equal time" that will work.


Oh, yeah, and we also have to work to make sure that every goddamned Republican in our capitols is out on their ear in the next couple of election cycles. The root of our problem is that the know-nothings and lunatics are in power, and are trying to wreck anything that does not pander to their ideology—and science opposes the Republican agenda.


Anyone else want to jump on the bandwagon here? I'll keep a list of the weblogs that speak out against George W. Bush's boneheaded move—just send me a link trackback to this post (the response has been a little bit overwhelming—there are 157 links down there, from liberals and conservatives, all complaining about Bush's stupid statements).


The Panda's Thumb
Doing Things with Words
Stranger Fruit
Thoughts from Kansas
AmericaBlog
From the Rachel
The World-Wide Rant
Yowling from the Fencepost
My Corner of the Universe
Unscrewing the Inscrutable
the tife and limes
Applied Theology
Dharma Bums
jasonbock.net
Chris C. Mooney
The dubious biologist
Cosmic Variance
The rude pundit
Science and Sarcasm
Leiter Reports
Newton's Binomium
tongue but no door
Leaves on the line
Afarensis
The Polite Liberal
Song of Myself
Betty the Crow
Kele's Atheistic and Evolutionary Journey
Dynamics of Cats
10,000 Monkeys and a Camera
Ooblog
Philosophy of Biology
Pandagon
A Man with a Ph.D.
Ramblings from the Desert
Covington
Obsidian Wings
Stephanie's Sweet Blog
Backseat driving
Musings
The blue bus is calling us…
…of Cabbages and Kings
The Huffington Post
The Drunken Lagomorph
De rerum natura
Stephen Laniel’s Unspecified Bunker
false cognate
Stoopid Stuff
Cider Press Hill
Hank Fox
The Light of Reason
Amygdala
TAPPED
Andrew Sullivan
Corrente
Father Dan
lolife
Power Liberal
Politburo Diktat
Feministing
The Van Halen Radiation Belts
Linkmeister
Project Morningstar
Decorabilia
Nomadic Thoughts
Mike the Mad Biologist
A Voyage to Arcturus
Neurotopia
Sadly, No!
Philosophy, Practice, and Politics
Frothing at the Mouth
About Atheism
Wolverine Tom
archy
Brown Bag Blog
Jones Alley Magazine
Brad DeLong's Semi-Daily Journal
Marginal Utility
Sandt's Observations
Balloon Juice
Crooks and Liars
Quantum Pontiff
and meanwhile, gregor mendel labored in obscurity
Whiskey Bar
The Continuing Adventures of Starman
She Flies With Her Own Wings
Broken Nails
The Sleepy Sage
Corsair the Rational Pirate
Nathan Newman
Upon Further Review…
Left I on the News
Neurotopia
Proceed at your own risk
reality based community.net
Instapundit
Shakespeare's Sister
No More Mr. Nice Guy!
Imbecilities
Mixing Memory
Language Games and Miscellaneous Arbitrary Marks
Telic Thoughts
Wonkette
Gay Orbit
Don Surber
Right Wing Nut House
Changing Places
Ah Clem
The Devil's Robot
Abnormal Interests
The Liberal Avenger
Living the Scientific Life
The Carpetbagger Report
Decrepit Old Fool
The Examining Room of Dr Charles
The Loom
Alun
Minnesota Politics
Fafblog
Aeromondo
Three-Toed Sloth
Cinematic Rain
Evolving Thoughts
Pooflingers Anonymous
Strange Doctrines
Tiberius and Gaius Speaking...
Poor Richard's Anorak
Universal Acid
Peace Tree Farm
Desert Rat Democrat
Byzantium's Shores
Sappho's Breathing
God is for suckers!
Lance Mannion
The Boxter Babe Blog
The Quality Control Alliance
Blog, Jvstin Style
Opinions you should have
Cosmic Log
Uncertain Principles
Daily Kos
Ruminating Dude
History of Science
The Uncredible Hallq
ekzept
Singularity
FloridaBlues
Church of the Front Porch
Dump Michele Bachmann
Lloydletta
10,000 Birds
I'll explain it when you are older
Sceadugenga
Immanuel Rant
Blog of the moderate left
The Cardboard Box Mansion
Science and Politics
The Binary Circumstance
The Corpus Callosum
skippy the bush kangaroo
Societas
Bad Astronomy Blog
Biocurious
Respectful Insolence
Solipsistic Scribbling
Dubbings and Diversions
Roger L. Simon
Catallarchy
Right Thoughts
Bitch Ph.D.
Buridan's Ass
Big Brass Blog
Steve Gilliard's News Blog
Threading the Needle
Ancarett's Abode
Amicus Rationis
Axiom
Infidels of Every Denomination
Creek Running North
Axis of Evel Knievel
The Raw Story
Eschaton
Philomathean

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Comments:
#33481: — 08/02  at  06:44 AM
Too bad neither the New York Times nor the Washington Post saw fit to report this. I heard about it on NPR's Morning Edition, looked for it in the papers, and couldn't find it.



#33484: — 08/02  at  07:03 AM
Remember--the ignorant vote.



#33485: — 08/02  at  07:08 AM
Mark hits the nail on the head, regarding why Bush supports teaching both creationism and evolution in science classes. Bush will go along with anything which is politically advantageous for himself, and the actual truth of the matter is of little or no importance to him. The truth about WMDs in Iraq were secondary to the the political advantages of being a war president also.



#33486: — 08/02  at  07:13 AM
I'm impressed. I though that Bush couldn't appear more stupid, yet somehow he still manages to do so.



#33487: — 08/02  at  07:14 AM
Americablog is covering it now, John is good for stuff like this.



#33488: — 08/02  at  07:48 AM
On the other hand, he also believes in Rafael Palmeiro. So we know something about the validity of his beliefs...



's avatar #33489: — 08/02  at  07:49 AM
Here's what gets me: If a science teacher suddenly stopped teaching science and started teaching their students about poetry in their classroom, they'd probably lose their job and there would be no debate about the situation because the students are supposed to be learning about science in science class. So how can some science teachers get away with, to the point of being encouraged to teach something besides science in the science classroom?

/end rhetorical question with obvious answer



#33491: Alon Levy — 08/02  at  07:54 AM
I'm impressed. I though that Bush couldn't appear more stupid, yet somehow he still manages to do so.


I disagree. A lot of otherwise smart people are creationists; Bush's stupidity is obvious because of other reasons.



#33495: Ron Zeno — 08/02  at  08:42 AM
Big Brother says:
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Double plus good that ignorance ;)



#33496: — 08/02  at  09:08 AM
Is that bandwagon going to be making any stops in Canada? I might want to hop aboard.



#33499: — 08/02  at  09:38 AM
Just six months ago, white house science adviser John H. Marburger said that intelligent design creationism "is not a scientific theory" and isn't even a "scientific topic."

Now Bush wants to teach this religious propaganda alongside science. I wonder if his science advisor will have to recant his previous statement that "Evolution is a cornerstone of modern biology. … Much of the work supported by the National Institutes of Health depends heavily on the concepts of evolution. President Bush has supported the largest increases in the NIH budget in history."

Should the NIH now fund intelligent design creationism too?



#33500: — 08/02  at  09:48 AM
Marburger ought to resign on principle rather than serve a President who enables scientific bullshit. But sadly, these days principle is something today's Republican party members could care less about.



#33501: — 08/02  at  09:49 AM
The theory of intelligent design says life on earth is too complex to have developed through evolution, implying that a higher power must have had a hand in creation.(chicagotribune.com)

Who knows what "developed through evolution" is supposed to mean, but assuming that life on earth is too complex to have developed through evolution, then the implication would be that, uh, life on earth is too complex to have developed through evolution.



#33502: — 08/02  at  09:52 AM
My blog entry on this issue from earlier today probably doesn't count since Bush came a poor second to the much more important matter of StarTrek, ie where was it that the fictional Scotty will allegedly be born so that a memorial to his death before birth can be installed there.



#33503: madbard — 08/02  at  10:07 AM
Huffington Post has picked up the story through the SF Chronicle.

My question about why didn't the greater press pick up the story is answered: the open question session was done for 5 hand-picked Texas reporters. So until they released their report on KnightRidder, AP, no one was going to have the story.



#33504: — 08/02  at  10:11 AM
Here's some interesting spin at Betty The Crow:

http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1051

"Bush encourages return to pantheism"



#33505: Bob Dowling — 08/02  at  10:15 AM
We're no better off on this side of the pond, I'm afraid. Bush's poodle, a.k.a. British Prime Minister Tony Blair, is quite happy for creationism to be taught in British schools too.

The Daily Telegraph (conservative, but not insane right-wing) newspaper had an article on it a while back, Blair adviser sent to settle school creationism row.



#33506: tristero — 08/02  at  10:18 AM
In fact, this is hardly news, because back during the 2000 campaign, Bush said much the same thing. (And for the record, while Gore was hardly heroic when confronted with this issue - he refused to condemn the Kansas Board of Ed - he advocated teaching creationism and IDiocy only where it is not unconstitutional, in religion classes.) See http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/08/27/president.2000/evolution.create/index.html



#33507: — 08/02  at  10:34 AM
Chris Mooney observes that Bush just isn't contradicting his science advisor on this issue—he's contradicting himself from less than a year ago:

And Marburger isn't the only person that Bush is (apparently) contradicting with his latest statement. He's also contradicting his 2004 presidential campaign. During the campaign, Science magazine asked (PDF) Bush and Kerry their policies on the teaching of ID. The Bush campaign then replied, "The federal government has no control over local curricula, and it is not the federal government’s role to tell states and local boards of education what they should teach in the classroom. Of course, scientific critiques of any theory should be a normal part of the science curriculum." Now, however, it sure sounds like Bush (the federal government) is indeed telling states and localities how to teach. An interesting application of conservative principles, to say the least.



#33508: — 08/02  at  11:04 AM
On the other hand, he also believes in Rafael Palmeiro. So we know something about the validity of his beliefs...


No shit. Is there any counterfactual position this administration won't adopt? Because I've got an economic theory based on spinning straw into gold (I call it Rumplestiltskinism). Maybe I can get some think tank money out of them.



's avatar #33509: Hank Fox — 08/02  at  11:05 AM
I sometimes think I'm beyond anger on this administation, but then things like this happen — regularly — and remind me that I'm not.

Here's a thought, though: every one of those people who sits in the audience at White House press conference is part of this problem. The "small group of reporters" mentioned in this article are part of the problem. The lot of them are giving Bush a free pass, day after day after day, while he cranks out stupidity and lies like Henry Ford cranked out Model T's.

It's past time to start talking directly to the press and reporters ... and showing the anger.

I'm not talking about writing a letter to the editor. I work for a newspaper, and I know letters to the editor are considered only for their entertainment value. A letter to the editor has no effect, because they don't take them seriously.

I'm talking about calling the reporters and editors and publishers and broadcasters directly, meeting them, getting in their faces, taking them to task for what they're doing, and for what they're not.

I don't think we can underestimate just how much Bush did in this one statement to destroy the content of American education. This will echo. It will grow.



#33515: — 08/02  at  11:42 AM
David W. hit the nail on the head. No self-respecting scientist should continue to be willing to serve this know-nothing Adminstration. This is only the latest of many outrages that should long since have driven that point home.



#33517: The Commissar — 08/02  at  11:55 AM
Plenty of 'Raging RINOs' are weighing in on this.

Chk my site in an hour or so.



#33518: Kagehi — 08/02  at  12:05 PM
So, did anyone here 'not' see this coming? Well, I suppose yes. If I had thought about it, I might have, as would others. I was too busy marveling at the juggling and unicycle riding fool to notice him about to pull out the ID sunflower to squirt battery acid on common sense.

Any priest or shaman must be presumed guilty until proved innocent - Robert A. Heinlein



#33519: — 08/02  at  12:06 PM
well, if school's are forced to teach ID then it's only fair they teach about this:

http://www.venganza.org/



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