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Thursday, November 13, 2003

Contemptible Creationist Capers

In the spirit of watching cockroaches scuttle away when exposed to the light, here's a letter that was sent to the state Science Standards Committee:

Dear State of Minnesota Science Standards Committee:

Hello. I've sincerely tried to persuade all of you to stop and think about the ramifications if you proceed to keep evolution being taught as a fact in our public schools. I've sent each of you two letters, three books, three videos, two pamphlets, and twenty-three articles. All I really should have needed to send each of you would have been the book of Genesis, where the great truth of "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" (Genesis 1:1) is found.

Whereas I have received a couple very thoughtful and encouraging letters from several of you thanking me for the resources sent and assuring me they'd be considered, the silence from the majority of you is deafening. Most discouraging is receiving a "form letter" from Dr. Cheri Yecke yesterday which says that introducing creationism in our schools would be unconstitutional. How can the teaching of the lie of evolution be opted over teaching the truth of creation? This is inconceivable to me.

Therefore, I propose a new approach. Throw out evolution from being taught completely. If it is not going to be a level playing field by allowing the truth of creation alongside the lie of evolution, then don't teach evolution at all. Just teach science that can be tested, repeated, and observed. Forget about what the evolutionists say happened millions or billions of years ago. They weren't there. No one was. That information is sheer conjecture, sheer guess, sheerly taken on faith with a sheer bias that there is no sovereign Creator. Therefore, evolution is a religion just as much as some say the Christian belief of creation is.

I appeal to you to be fair, honest, honorable, just, and have the best interests of the students and their parents at heart. Why undermine a Bible believing students faith? Why alienate a non-believer from their Creator by teaching that we are the descendent of a rodent-like creature and ultimately from slime in a warm ocean. Throw out evolution completely. Keep it out of the curriculum. Keep it out of your standards. Science will not suffer. Read what Dr. Bernard d'Abrera says of how evolution is destroying true science in the article "Butterfly Blast" which I sent each of you. Read what MRI inventor Dr. Raymond Damadian says about what an evil evolution is in our society in the article on him I sent each of you, entitled "Super Scientist Slams Society's Spiritual Sickness!"

Apparently you are all meeting again this Saturday, November 15th. It should make it easy for you to complete your work and not have any one alienated if you drop evolution completely from K-12 in the State of Minnesota. Be the first state in our United States to do the right thing.

If you are not willing to do this, then I must reiterate to you all once again Scripture's stearn warning of grave peril for your offence: "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea….woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!" (Matthew 18:6-7)

The teaching of evolution is an affront to the true and living God, and you must not proceed to think you can do this without fearful ramifications.
I respectfully ask you from the bottom of my heart, those of you in a leadership position at this moment in time, those of you with the power to affect the outcome of all this, you absolutely must do the fair, honest, honorable, just, and noble thing. Either include the truth of creation to be taught to our impressionable youth, or throw out completely the lie of evolution.

Sincerely,
Bryce Gaudian
Hayward MN

Note in particular the threat I've put in bold. The whole letter is an appalling example of bigoted ignorance, but that comment is simply despicable.

I would hope that any good Christians in Hayward who happen to know Mr Gaudian would gently take him aside and inform him that this kind of attempted intimidation is both a blemish on his personal character and a discredit to his faith.

By the way, Mr Gaudian is the director of the Southern Minnesota Association for Creation Science, which is affiliated with the Twin Cities Creation Science Association. He is listed in several directories of creationist organizations.


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Comments:
#111: Jeff — 11/14  at  02:14 AM
I can't stand those kind of people. He should move down to Alabama and join Moore's entourage. I think they'd have lots in common.



#112: stageleft — 11/14  at  09:08 AM
Now therer's the type of guy I expect to see on the 6:00 news some fine evening..... being led away from the smoking ruins of the building the standards committee meets in.



's avatar #113: PZ Myers — 11/14  at  09:37 AM
Actually, I suspect that he himself is nothing but an obsessed kook who is mostly harmless -- the worry is that this is a guy who is trying to spread a biblical justification for violent action against people who teach non-fundamentalist ideas. The idea that they are on a mission for god is just the thing to push sanctimonious murderer's like Paul Hill into action.

PZ Myers
Division of Science and Math
University of Minnesota, Morris



#114: — 11/14  at  09:57 AM
May I sincerely suggest to Mr. Gaudian that he mind his own business when it comes to the faith of others. Most people, including most Christians, are able to make their own reasonable judgments about evolution and its instruction in public schools without being subjected to such dire warnings.



#115: — 11/14  at  10:03 AM
Here's a sensible commentary from the opinion pages of today's St. Paul Pioneer-Press about Minnesota's science standards:

New science standards must make kids think - by Nancy Nutting and George Davis

With the Profile of Learning graduation standards repealed, Minnesota schools face a turning point for science education.

Minnesota decision-makers are finalizing new science education standards — the results of which will shape the future lives of our students, our workforce and, ultimately, our state economy. As we finalize the new Minnesota Academic Standards for Science, we must choose our course carefully.

Will Minnesota continue to serve as a national role model for science education? Or will we opt for a lesser path, substituting proven national standards with prescriptive curricula geared more toward successful test taking than successful learning?

The time to answer this question is now.

What's at stake here? For nearly a decade, Minnesota has led the nation in shaping the way science is taught. Our state's students regularly score at or near the top in leading science tests. Results from the 1995 Third International Mathematics and Science Study — the largest such study ever conducted — showed that Minnesota fourth- and eighth-graders were among the worldwide leaders in science scores, outperformed only by Korea at the fourth-grade level and Singapore at the eighth-grade level. ...



#116: — 11/14  at  12:38 PM
It is exactly because of these loud mouthed, ignorant, and closed minded Christians that I am feeling more and more alienated by my own religion. I am a Catholic, and a scientist. I don't see where the contradiction is.



#117: Reagan — 11/14  at  01:41 PM
Ah, Creation Science. I love that oxymoron.



#118: — 11/15  at  12:55 AM
When I read this article all I heard was "Blah blah blah. Just teach science that can be tested, repeated, and observed. Blah blah."

Yup, ignorant people bother me. Undertstanding what you're criticizing might be a good idea for next time.



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