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Monday, September 26, 2005

Great pelagic orgies!

Now, see, science journalism really is picking up today; here's a fascinating article on the sex practices of giant squid. Several specimens of Architeuthis have washed up on a beach in Spain, and some of the males had been inseminated…multiple times. How does that happen?

"Although mating has never been observed in giant squid, it is thought that what happens is that the male injects his sperm packages into the female's arms. The process is likely to be a fairly violent affair as the female is probably not that keen on being injected. This is a problem for the amorous male as females are normally a third bigger than they are.

"But males get round their inferior size by being endowed with a particularly long penis, which means they can inject the female without having to get too close to her chomping beak. The male's sexual organ is actually a bit like a high-pressure fire hose and is normally nearly as long as his body - excluding legs and head.

"But having such a big penis does have one drawback: it seems that co-ordinating eight legs, two feeding tentacles and a huge penis, whilst fending off an irate female, is a bit too much to ask, and one of the two males stranded on the Spanish coast had accidentally injected himself with sperm packages in the legs and body. And this does not seem to have been an isolated incident since two of the eight males that had stranded in the north-east Atlantic before had also accidentally inseminated themselves.

"It is also possible that the sperm packages had come from other males that they had 'bumped' into, in the dark depths of the ocean. However, the sperm packages ended up in the squid - it is just another part of the mysterious lives of these creatures of the deep sea."

Just imagine it—great pelagic orgies, the males thrusting wantonly with their massive penile arms, promiscuously inseminating any nearby slickly molluscan body. Perhaps they end up sated and exhausted from their frenzied exertions and, oblivious and insensate, drift ashore to die content.

Forget March of the Penguins. There's a great documentary waiting to be made here: Squid Gone Wild. Cephalopod Sex Party. I want to see Michael Medved review it.

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ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn…ooh la la.
I think that might be his "oh" face.

(I got this from Norwegianity. What's a nice Norwegian bachelor doing reading this stuff?)


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Comments:
#41756: — 09/26  at  09:03 PM
Wait a minute - are you telling me the female told him to go fuck himself and he took it LITERALLY?



#41757: DA Etler — 09/26  at  09:19 PM
When you think of it the "Great Astral Designer" really does have quite an imagination. As an exercise in "objectivity" why not try to conceptualize just what sort of "sentience" would come up with some of the weirder sexual flukes of nature that have been described over the years. Obviously he/she/it is fixated on "sex" and must get his/her/its kicks by designing all sorts of kinky sex practices. Do the IDiots really want their existance bearing the imprimatur of this pervert? Of course, this is not blasphemy as the "Great Designer" is not "God" per se, just some supernatural being beyond the ken of us lowly mortals. Why, we can go ahead and curse this guy/gal/thingamajig to our hearts content. And, by the way, isn't the "Great Designer" rather pantheistic in nature and therefore anathema to a good christian? Let's teach how perverted and pagan this entity really is to all the fundies kids. In all seriousness, the "Great Designer" is ripe for ridicule. Take ID "ideas" to their logical conclusions and you'll have a field day debunking their idiocy.



#41759: — 09/26  at  09:39 PM
Or, as Richard Ellis put it, he shot himself in the foot.



#41760: Dave Carlson — 09/26  at  09:46 PM
Yes! More invertebrate porn!!!



#41761: — 09/26  at  09:54 PM
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn…ooh la la.
I think that might be his "oh" face.


I'm starting to wonder about you PZ...

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"As with all of ID, the important thing is first to have the concept. Production can then follow as a matter of course.” -Dembski



#41762: — 09/26  at  09:59 PM
Pssst. ... evidence for homosexual squid?



#41763: — 09/26  at  10:05 PM
As an exercise in "objectivity" why not try to conceptualize just what sort of "sentience" would come up with some of the weirder sexual flukes of nature that have been described over the years.

Be careful or someone will think you're conceited.



#41765: — 09/26  at  10:23 PM
Pssst. ... evidence for homosexual squid?
On the same note (kind of) - I consider squid to be highly intelligent creatures.

So, is it possible that the males display this behavior, um, because they enjoy it?

Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

-Jerry Garcia



#41767: — 09/26  at  10:45 PM
Does the sudden appearence of all these giant squid at this particular moment in time have anything at all to do with the so called questionable existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Could there be some kind of cosmic connention between these monsters of the deep and the FSM? Just asking. BB



Trackback: bigger not better Tracked on: push fluids (66.33.219.18) at 2005 09 26 22:01:54
Who needs Fleshbot when we have Pharyngula? The good professor brings us the latest in hot, autoerotic giant squid action. When the odds are 1 in 4 that you'll end up inseminating yourself, I think even I'd side with the...



's avatar #41769: — 09/26  at  11:03 PM
Since Giant Squid sex has never been actually observed, all the porn is in your dirty imaginations. I bet 99% of them make sex in the missionary position, and only sinners and deviants get washed out to the shore, as some kind of ID-ordained punishment.

Quod natura non sunt turpia



#41771: coturnix — 09/26  at  11:20 PM
With all those tentacles, I am having trouble envisioning missionary position in squid. Can somebody draw a picture?



#41773: Christopher Mason — 09/26  at  11:57 PM
Faaantastic.
I want some tentacles now, or else forever lacking in the bedroom, I will feel.

"oh face," I love it....



Trackback: Deep Thinker Tracked on: PhaWRONGula (72.9.234.70) at 2005 09 27 00:05:17
He wears his Lovecraft T-shirt; the girls all think he's weird. He wears his Lovecraft T-shirt and sports a scraggly beard...



's avatar #41776: — 09/27  at  12:40 AM
Coturnix, You had no trouble imagining Giant Squids abusing themselves and/or each other in an unholy calamari a la vinaigrette salad, so I wonder what's the problem?

Quod natura non sunt turpia



#41777: Alex — 09/27  at  02:03 AM
This is off-topic, but I'm wondering why no one is paying any attention to the fact that the Endangered Species Act is about to be gutted?

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/241710_endangered22.html



#41778: Gaijin — 09/27  at  02:21 AM
Any idea on how such a curious behavior can evolve? Especially the reluctant female. I am sure you have an explanation, but I fail to see it (I'm not yet accustomed to evolutionary reasoning...). btw, great blog!



#41779: — 09/27  at  02:25 AM
I got this from Norwegianity.
That's an odd coincidence. My current favourite marine image site (found on a starfish search) also happens to be Norwegian. Here's one of their all too few squiddly pages:
http://www.seawater.no/fauna/Blotdyr/akkar.htm

Go on, PZ, email the owner/photographer:
http://www.seawater.no/fauna/About.htm
saying that you're a teacher and you really need more squid illustrations. :-D



#41780: Joseph ODonnell — 09/27  at  03:25 AM
Any idea on how such a curious behavior can evolve? Especially the reluctant female. I am sure you have an explanation, but I fail to see it (I'm not yet accustomed to evolutionary reasoning...). btw, great blog!


This is probably a factor of sexual selection. Making babies is a highly energetically expensive process, especially for females and ensuring you get the best male for the job is the only way to go. By being so coy about allowing a male to inseminate her, she is likely selecting only for males that are big enough, aggressive enough and have sufficient energy to fight with her to end up 'winning'. Those that aren't capable of winning end up sticking themselves and failing to breed.

This ensures the females only mate with the males who are the strongest and healthiest at the time. Sexual selection is one of the most powerful forces in evolution and is responsible for all sorts of wierd behaviours. Note that, without having seen these squid in the act myself, I'm only speculating but this seems a fairly reasonable hypothesis and would be consistent with other squid as well.



#41784: Johnny Vector — 09/27  at  05:23 AM
This appears to be the squid equivalent of the Pretzel Hold joke. It's funny becasue it's true!



#41786: Republic of Palau — 09/27  at  05:48 AM
Feh. Lots of animals show same-sex preference, heifers for example. “Cows look calm, but really they are gay nymphomaniacs...”

And I wonder how many of the wingnut 'March of The Penguins' fans are aware of the prevalence of gay penguins? Why do penguins hate America?

Tsk. Just goes to show that even supposedly sensible scientists are sickly fascinated with hentai smile



's avatar #41787: — 09/27  at  05:52 AM
Giant Squid mating behaviour may involve some kind of courtship ritual, gladiator competition, lekking or some yet unimagined behaviour. Eventually, it will be observed, filmed in Technicolor and featured on Pharyngula with a convincing evolutionary explanation. IDers will say it is "only a theory", and Alabama Courts will impose on teachers to present in class the sanitized ID version. The slippery slope argument will be used: "teaching Cephalopoda reproductive behavior may cause young people to perform bizarre acts contra natura, like self-injecting vital bodily liquids".

Quod natura non sunt turpia



#41788: John Emerson — 09/27  at  07:12 AM
As far as heifers being gay, if 99% of all guys were castrated before puberty and then eaten as veal, most women would be gay too.

The wrongs male humans as a group have committed against female humans as a group throughout history are partially if not wholly compensated for by the horrible fate of male farm animals. It's speciesist to say otherwise.



#41816: — 09/27  at  08:48 AM
"...had accidentally injected himself..."

What makes them so sure that it was accidental?



#41822: Norwegianity — 09/27  at  09:10 AM
And, in my own defense, I never paid attention to this whole Wife Aquatic mate-with-whatever-moves thing until I started reading Pharyngula.



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