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Saturday, May 07, 2005

Here's where to find out what's going on in Kansas

There is an anti-evolution kangaroo court going on in Kansas right now, with a string of creationist pseudoscientists being trotted out in hearings held by the state board of education, all with the intent of injecting nonsense into schoolkids' educations. Qualified scientists are boycotting the event, a worrisome strategy since it gives the creationists an open microphone, but so far it seems to be working—their foolishness is what is being exposed. However, I haven't been writing much about the hearings because I just assumed that everyone who read Pharyngula was also reading the other weblogs with all the news (although that story that the good right-wing Christians of Kansas are calling on an the testimony of an Islamic extremist was too juicy to resist). I got a couple of e-mail requests last night to explain what's going on, though, so maybe everyone doesn't follow this as avidly as I do…so let me direct your attention to a couple of good sources.

Pat Hayes of Red State Rabble is right there—he's attending the news conferences and the hearings. He's been posting reports regularly; you can read the summary so far (which will be obsolete soon as he adds more), and he has accounts of the woeful bias of the board of education members and the willful blindness of ID creationist witnesses. Some of his accounts have also been posted to the Panda's Thumb.

Josh Rosenau of Thoughts from Kansas has also been following the case closely and posting analyses. He has observed that the witnesses are ignorant and unqualified, and is also optimistic that it's going to backfire on the creationists.

I'm hoping for a good outcome, too, but I'm more cynical. All too often, foolishness loudly declaimed is accepted by those who want the lies to be true, no matter how ridiculous what they say might be. On the other hand, now that the Son of a conservative God rejects ID creationism, maybe a few of them will stop to think.


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Trackback: The Creationist Clown Show Marches On Tracked on: Sadly, No! (81.209.188.69) at 2005 05 07 09:38:15
Most scientists have decided to boycott the "Scopes Trial II" being held in Kansas this week because they don't want to lend legitimacy to the proponents of "Intelligent Design." Thus, the defense of evolution is left to one lone lawyer,...



#24292: — 05/07  at  10:52 AM
Someone posted this eslewhere, but I thought I'd share it:

With cirrucula like these being developed, the next generation of Americans should be well equipped to handle the challenges of the eighteenth century.


That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?



#24293: dread pirate roberts — 05/07  at  11:25 AM
i misread "son of a conservative god" to mean the son of an actual deity, not a deified human. altho i do like ron reagan and found his comments spot on i was a wee bit disappointed that someone hadn't found a new god/son duo.



#24295: QrazyQat — 05/07  at  12:05 PM
I posted elsewhere on the futility of sitting down at the table to play a rigged game. That's the problem here; play the game and you lose, cause it's rigged. So the thing to do is to walk away from the rigged game.

You can, however, use the opportunity the rigged game provides to place evolution info in print because the rigged game is news (or "news" as I actually think of it). When there is "news" you can comment on it, in letters to editors and op-eds. Go after yopur local papers and any other sources you can; get in touch with your TV and radio news too.

Don't play the rigged game; you can't win against a con by playing the con -- you can con a con though. Do that instead.



#24297: — 05/07  at  02:56 PM
On the other hand, now that the Son of a conservative God rejects ID creationism, maybe a few of them will stop to think.

I think that's a misapplied narrative. From the conservative perspective, Ronald Reagan Jr is to Ronald Reagan Sr as Absolom is to David.



#24298: Wesley R. Elsberry — 05/07  at  03:15 PM
I've put up a page of media contacts, the initial set taken from Bill Dembski 's post telling people to support the kangaroo court. I've also linked more extensive lists of contacts.

I think a round of letters is a fine idea. Talking points:

- The "experts" generally were not expert in biology, the subject of the discussion.

- The "experts" uniformly rejected or refused to agree with the mainstream scientific views on the age of the earth, the common ancestry of humans with other primates, or the common ancestry of life on earth.

- The "experts" were supposed to testify to advantages of the minority challenge to the draft standards, yet none of them when questioned would say that they actually read the draft standards. This should have resulted in several arrests for perjury (if they testified that the minority challenge was better than the draft standard) or fraud (for accepting Kansans' money taken out of the education fund to testify to that effect and failing to perform).



#24299: GrrlScientist — 05/07  at  03:16 PM
My blood boiled when I heard a news report about this on National Public Radio yesterday morning. There was no "balancing" information provided, either.



#24301: Wesley R. Elsberry — 05/07  at  06:52 PM
Hey! Josh Rosenau says that Angus Menuge did say that he had read both the draft standard and the minority challenge. So modify my earlier talking point to "most of them when questioned would not say". Congratulations to Menuge for bucking the trend of his non-reading colleagues.



Trackback: Intelligent Design on trial Tracked on: Skeptico (66.151.149.25) at 2005 05 08 15:35:45
And so it should be. You may have read how Christians in Kansas have organized a series of courtroom-style hearings to determine if that children should be taught Intelligent Design in their science classes. Their idea was to put evolution



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