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Wednesday, March 02, 2005

Horowitz at St. John's University

As promised, I attended Horowitz's talk at SJU this evening. It was sloppy, illogical, fundamentally dishonest, and rambling, but it didn't matter. His fellow ideologues in the audience seemed to enjoy it. Like the talk, my summary here is going to be rather incoherent—it's hard to piece sense out of nonsense.

As an interesting opening gambit, Horowitz began his talk by slandering St. John's University, and every other university in the country. The professors are totalitarians who bully their students; they are unprofessional; they suppress opposing viewpoints; university departments are devoted to attacking America; you can't get a good education here. He accused universities of requiring students to hear leftist speakers, but silencing conservative voices.

He was curiously oblivious to the fact that David Horowitz was standing on a stage at the university in a well-attended and well-publicized event, expressing some extremely conservative views. And in a nice bit of irony, it was revealed in the question period that the professor of an evening peace studies class had let the students out early, specifically so they could attend the event. You'd think you'd notice when you are the counterexample to your own blanket accusation, but no, Horowitz is completely unaware. The whole evening was like that: Horowitz would say something appallingly stupid, and just trundle obtusely on.

Wait, that's not entirely fair. He did have evidence for his accusation. He ranted about Ward Churchill for 5 minutes. I had not known that Ward Churchill was in the employ of SJU. Ward Churchill is now the Official Standard Academic, whose name can be generically substituted in place of any other actual representative of the profession.

Reality was not something Mr Horowitz emphasized that evening. Apparently, conservatives are toughened by their minority status and their oppression, while liberals and leftists never get any opposition research. We liberals are the unquestioned majority. In America. Seriously.

Students are required to read the Communist Manifesto several times during their undergraduate career, and there are no professors who give a different point of view. This was very surprising news to me. My son the economics major is always coming home with books by these guys named Smith and Hayek and Friedman and Galbraith and Krugman and Greenspan; I had no idea they were all lousy Marxists. Clearly the economics department at SCSU needs a severe dressing down, and maybe the commie who runs it needs to be fired…too left-wing.

He spent a little time on the Summers affair. The whole situation is simply explained: Summers asked an innocent question, and the liberals formed a lynch mob. Hiss, boo. And, by the way, did you know that there has never been a great female composer or mathematician? It's been 50 years since Betty Friedan, so there's been plenty of time to raise one, if they were capable of it. (That's right, Betty Friedan fixed everything for women, so it's all your own damn fault now, feminists.)

Also by the way, there are no gender, race, or class hierarchies in America, and if anyone tells you otherwise, they are feeding you ideological lies. The proof: Oprah Winfrey. There is no longer any oppression or racism or economic discrimination in America, because Oprah Winfrey exists. And Chewbacca is a Wookie from the planet Kashyyyk, but Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor.

Guess what cause World War II? The peace movement. They killed 70 million people. The peaceniks also killed millions in Viet Nam, and Watergate was a political attack by the peace movement on President Nixon. The peace movement is also effectively crippling our military, and is killing our soldiers now. This had me thinking that peace movements seem to be the most effectively murderous death machines of all time, and that maybe instead of funding our military, we ought to be supporting peace movements abroad. That'd be an irresistible way to destroy our enemies.

Now, really, Horowitz is not such a demanding guy. He said he'd be content if universities just got their professors to agree not to do political recruiting in their classrooms. That's all he wants. That's why, apparently, his argument about the evils of the professorate consisted of pointing out that they mostly vote Democratic; that they post liberal political cartoons on their doors; that they publish articles which he finds offensive; that they express opinions he dislikes at speaking engagements; and that they never, ever allow conservative points of view to be expressed on campus.

I swear, he was trying to kill me with irony. I should have called the cops and had him arrested for attempted murder when he announced that because liberals have contempt for the other side, they're going to lose.

The whole talk consisted of these incoherent non sequiturs greased up with condescension, and really, it's hard to take the man seriously; he's a babbling clown. All that nonsense up there? He actually said it*. But it was one of the students at SJU who let me down and broke my heart.

The last person in the question and answer period was a student who had been in Iraq during the last election, and he got up to say that he wanted to back Horowitz up on one earlier comment, when he'd mentioned that it was disgraceful that John Kerry had questioned our engagement in the war. He agreed, and said it was un-American to oppose the war. And half the students present stood up to applaud wildly.

It is un-American to oppose the war.

Like Horowitz, he was obviously unaware of just how profoundly un-American his statement was.

It is tragic that our soldiers go off to fight a war, proudly told that they are fighting for freedom and democracy, and they have so little idea of what the words mean. Apparently, democracy means never questioning the decisions of your president. Freedom means doing what you are told.

And this is what Horowitz wants the outcome of a university education to be.


*OK, he didn't actually use the Chewbacca Defense. But it would have fit right in if he had.


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Comments:
#17436: — 03/02  at  02:45 AM
Half the students stood up to applaud because they were there to support him. They were his fans.

I'd disapprove more strongly had I not been at a different university campus the previous night to hear the China Philharmonic and stood to cheer Lang Lang playing the "Rhapsody on a Theme by Paganini" and Lüwa Ke singing Xiao Gang Ye's "Das Lied auf der Erde". I too am a fan, though of different stuff. I'm sure I had a better time at my event.



#17437: Tom Morris — 03/02  at  02:55 AM
I think groups like Fire actually demonstrate that there is a problem with these speech codes, orientation sessions and so on, but whenever I read Horowitz, I feel he is blowing it way out of proportion and parodying any real debate on the issue: it isn't just a matter of ensuring that the liberals and conservatives balance out. It's a matter of ensuring that free speech can take place on college campuses.

Horowitz takes a problem - speech codes, in loco parentis, the patronising attitude that some universities have to free speech - and makes it a parody of itself.



#17438: — 03/02  at  03:39 AM
And, by the way, did you know that there has never been a great female composer or mathematician? It's been 50 years since Betty Friedan, so there's been plenty of time to raise one, if they were capable of it.

Apparently Horowitz hasn't heard of Hypatia, Sophie Germain, or Emmy Noether. At least he didn't say there had never been any great female scientist, in which case it would've been appropriate to shout from the audience, "Marie Curie!".

Guess what cause World War II? The peace movement. They killed 70 million people.

Well, the appeasers were indirectly responsible, but they were mostly rightists, many of whom admired Hitler for restoring Germany's honor. The communists cringed at every act of Western appeasement of Hitler, and Stalin in fact regarded himself as the most prominent anti-fascist leader, until he figured that if he couldn't beat them, he should try joining them. Even the liberals were more likely to oppose Hitler than the conservatives were; Roosevelt did his earnest to balance satisfying the populace's isolationism and helping the Allied war effort, until Pearl Harbor and the German declaration of war on the USA made war-making popular.

The peaceniks also killed millions in Viet Nam,

In other words, war is peace.

Apparently, democracy means never questioning the decisions of your president. Freedom means doing what you are told.

That's American political thought in a nutshell. Criticizing an elected leader means criticizing democracy. Criticizing the country means hating freedom. Suggesting that something might be better in another country is treason.



#17439: Rob — 03/02  at  04:07 AM
Brava. Having spent too much time already in the halls of academe, I agree with the Certified Lunatic that there is a problem, but as Tom said above, Horowitz is exaggerating its seriousness. Worse: He takes whatever extreme he perceives on the "left" (whatever that is), sees it and raises it. Have you seen his Network website that supposedly reveals the web of connections that is the Left? The man is a paranoid hysterical freak.

BTW, I don't know what the range of your university experience is, but if you've taught classes, did you notice a strange division in political orientation between students and teachers? Almost all my fellow grad students were pretty liberal, but a disproportionate number of our students were uber conservative.



#17441: — 03/02  at  05:31 AM
Having spent too much time already in the halls of academe, I agree with the Certified Lunatic that there is a problem, but as Tom said above, Horowitz is exaggerating its seriousness.

I remain skeptical on this point till someone provides evidence for discrimination. I'm not talking about the "oh, I'm a conservative and didn't get tenure" fallacy, but about serious, peer-reviewed research that shows bias in the academia toward liberals. There's similar research that shows bias against blacks in employment in the USA, so finding out what the facts are in this situation shouldn't be too difficult for a serious researcher.



#17444: Sean D. Hurley — 03/02  at  06:30 AM
it's hard to piece sense out of nonsense

Your comment reminded me of my first conversation with a schizophrenic. What he said was syntaxually correct, but the verbs and nouns were a hodge-podge that didn't make any sense. Just bewilderment.

The role of people like David Horowitz is to provide "intellectual cover" for people who would rather not approach complex or societal issues with an open mind. The thinking is "David Horowitz is a smart guy, and he believes what I believe, so that is that. I don't need to think about this."

Yet, he consistently employs strawmen, over-reaches in his conclusions, and refuses to appreciate the position (or reasons) of those who disagree. And he more or less gets away with this because he used to be a liberal.

It seems to me that something is wrong with Horowitz. But to be honest, I'm not really curious as to what that is.

Peace.



#17445: — 03/02  at  06:59 AM
There is no longer any oppression or racism or economic discrimination in America, because Oprah Winfrey exists.

Does that mean Bill Gates' existence signalled the end of nerd-bashing?



#17447: — 03/02  at  07:37 AM
I would just do away with the references to "unamerican" behavior. It sounds ridiculous and jingoistic when a right-winger says it, but when an American left-winger refers to something as "unamerican", it sounds like an unwitting denial of responsibility. For instance, labeling the abuses at Abu Ghraib or the horrendous killings at My Lai as “un-American” would just obscure the fact that any society has the capacity and the willingness to commit terrible crimes in certain situations. I really can’t see how the useless label “un-American” can be understood as anything else but a disavowal. It certainly does nothing but obscure matters any time is thrown around an issue.



#17448: ionfish — 03/02  at  07:41 AM
If nothing else, it signalled an up-turn in the validity of the "you're just jealous" defence…



#17450: — 03/02  at  08:18 AM
Horowitz sounds like an idiot, but he provides cover for more insidious types, like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. My personal belief is that they move the entire body of public discouse so far to the extreme (not towards the right, but towards violence) that it makes the truly extremem seem less so. I hope the recent murder of a judge's husband and mother is not a symptom of that problem. How odd that I find myself hoping that a robber committed two murders.



#17452: Miranda — 03/02  at  08:23 AM
Jeebus, where was Horowitz et. al when Ken Starr was going after Bill Clinton? Or Travelgate? Were all those Republicans traitors for attacking a sitting president? And Rush Limbaugh was "un-American" for criticizing the federal government in the '90s? And what about all those conservatives who denounced US involvement in Kosovo and Bosnia?

The problem with American is its collective attention deficit disorder.



#17453: Mike — 03/02  at  08:36 AM

Almost all my fellow grad students were pretty liberal, but a disproportionate number of our students were uber conservative.

That's because we haven't finished indoctrinating them yet. :^)



#17461: profsynecdoche — 03/02  at  10:04 AM
I wish that we could just ignore Horowitz. What I find most appalling is that serious conservative thinkers won't disavow this nonsense. He has become such a parody of himself that he can't do anything more than rally the faithful and galvanize his opposition. The sad thing is this: his talks actually do rob the students of a chance to hear a conservative intellectual of substance. Every time he steps on campus to receive a hefty speaking fee, the students are not getting a chance to hear, say, Gertrude Himmelfarb, because the College Republicans have blown their speaking money on this guy. Liberal students then think this is what conservatism is like. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of Horowitz types out there, but college students deserve to hear something more substantial, and do I (as a liberal professor). Of course, part of the problem is cult of celebrity that drives college speaking engagements, but that is another story.



#17464: Wes F. in Cincinnati — 03/02  at  10:38 AM
Joan Tower.

Ellen Taafe Zwilich.

Amy Beach.

Fanny Mendelssohn Hensel.

Elizabeth Jacquet de la Guerre.

Hildegaard von Bingen.

All female composers (from the 20th Century back to the Middle Ages). All great composers.

And there's also Nadia Boulanger, who taught Aaron Copland, Philip Glass, Quincy Jones, and too many others to mention.

WF



's avatar #17467: PZ Myers — 03/02  at  10:52 AM
Piffle. As Horowitz explained, musical composition is at its root a mathematical activity; women aren't as good at math as men; ergo, there have been no great female composers.


Dear gob, after being exposed to an hour and a half of that crap, I do believe my mind has been corrupted.

PZ Myers
Division of Science and Math
University of Minnesota, Morris



's avatar #17469: Nullifidian — 03/02  at  11:26 AM
I'd love to see Horowitz forced to sit to down with a CD of unlisted tracks with stuff like de la Guerre's harpsichord sonatas, Gubaidulina's Piano Sonata, Louise Farrenc's piano quintets, Cecile Chaminade's piano music, Rachel Eubanks' Five Interludes for Solo Piano (I can go on and on) along with equivalent (but not extremely famous) pieces from their male contemporaries and tell us which were composed by men and which by women.

The stress on piano music is due to the fact that I've performed all these in concerts to the genuine enjoyment of everyone attending. And when I was selecting pieces by female composers, it was an embarrassment of riches. I had a hard time choosing due to all the great music women have composed in the past and present.

"We are obliged, therefore, to spread the news, painful and bitter though it may be for some to hear, that all living things on earth are kindred.” Edward Abbey, Desert Solitaire



#17471: — 03/02  at  12:07 PM
David Horowitz was not a "typical" liberal, but a Trotskyite in the radical 60's group Students for a Democratic Society (SDS).

But he seems almost Stalinist nowadays, with his vicious attacks on those he might call "enemies of the American people".



#17474: — 03/02  at  12:26 PM
Criticizing an elected leader means criticizing democracy. Criticizing the country means hating freedom. Suggesting that something might be better in another country is treason.

Not necessarily. Criticizing an elected leader left of Hitler means criticizing democracy. But there are so many radical leftists destroying our country that we need to stand behind our real leaders.

I think it's the forest moon of Endor.



#17481: — 03/02  at  01:40 PM
Ada, Countess of Lovelace?
Grace Murray Hopper?

What a fucking idiot.



#17485: Wes F. in Cincinnati — 03/02  at  02:10 PM
How could I forget Marta Ptaszynska? I even studied composition with her in 1995.

WF



#17491: Reed A. Cartwright — 03/02  at  02:51 PM
And who could forget Dolly Parton, who uttered one of my most favorite quotes: "It takes a lot of money to look this cheap."



#17492: pasquino — 03/02  at  03:01 PM
The enemy for people like Horowitz isn't the far left, it's the decent middle, the honest, intelligent people who question authority. The American Conservative magazine recently ran an article that attached the F word to these incompetents in the Bush regime. Fascist. They are not conservative or they would be protecting what has worked, what has delivered a fine golden age for a few generations, the FDR legacy. They are radicals. They, moreover, are fascists who prefer a poor, mobbish, insecure, frightened populace who are ready to do as they're told and angry enough to do it quickly and without thinking. End Social Security? Sure boss. The right prefers people not read the contract or understand the fine print, and even if they do, questions can be shoved aside by accusing the questioner. I recommend an article in the new McSweeney's15. It's titled Midnight. It about says it all.



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#17540: Bartholomew — 03/02  at  08:12 PM
A few more distinguished female composers, all C20-21:

Lili Boulanger (Nadia's sister)
Judith Weir
Ethel Smyth
Rachel Portman
Ruth Crawford Seeger
Deirdre Gribbin

etc. etc. - and that's just in the Anglo world. And if we add singer-songwriters to the list, there's hundreds (but I must mention Suzanne Vega and Bjork).

Amazing how just one offhand remark can reveal such depths of ignorance and loathing.



#17628: — 03/03  at  07:16 PM
I posted this yesterday over at Mouse Words, but if Felix Mendelssohn is considered a Great Composer -- which he is -- then you are pretty much obliged to admit that his sister, Fanny Hensel, is also a Great Composer, since many of the works that earned Mendelssohn's entry into the "great composer" club were actually written by Fanny Hensel and published under her brother's name.



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