Like I said…thugs.
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Wednesday, December 07, 2005
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well, at least there's a mailing address. I suggest we send him a copy of the constitution, with a post-it tab at the page containing the first amendment, and the relevant part highlighted.
I'm afraid of lunatic atheists and their lawyers, too.
Thankfully, religious people seem more susceptible to lunacy than atheists.
lamar billboard company. How much you want to bet they would refuse an anti-ID message as too controversial?
I can't help but notice that the billboard is owned by Lamar Advertising, which has just refused to honor their contract with the DNC to put up an ad critical of Ohio Congresswoman Jean Schmidt.
Duh, if I'd followed the link, I'd have seen that's why the DNC was posting this image... I'm an idiot. ;)
So many Christians. So few lions.
Ha, ha. Those silly Christian conservatives and their slipery slopes.
PZ: You didn't just say "thugs"; you said "Fundamentalists: ignorant thugs with a bible", which is plausibly read as a blanket statement, much as someone who responded to news accounts of violence perpetrated by, say, certain African-Americans with the statement "African-Americans: ignorant thugs with dark skin" would plausibly be considered not just to be criticizing the specific criminals in question but to be making a broad racist statement. In the thread in which you made that statement, you made a few follow-up comments, none of which seemed to amend your original statement.
Estimates I've seen state that around 60 million Americans identify themselves as Fundamentalist Christians. In your many years of teaching, have you never had any of them as students? If you did have Fundamentalist students, how did they feel to have their teacher call them thugs?
BTW, what do you make of Professor Mirecki resigning his chairmanship today?
Very funny. I love these knuckle draggers.
In response to the deer story (from a WV resident), I find this statement particularly disturbing...
"The carcasses were given to passers-by for butchering."
Gives the image that there's a road-block set up, authorities stopping traffic, thrusting carcasses in the trunk saying "here, this is yours, deal with it."
Nat, as far as I've ever seen, fundamentalist christians can be divided into only a few major groups: (1) troglodyte thugs, (2) those who train the troglodyte thugs, and (3) those who look the other way and make excuses for the troglodyte thugs.
All three groups really ought to be praying that the atheists are right. Because if the atheists are wrong, the fundamentalists are going to get an awful surprise when they find out just how hot their afterlife is...
Since no one on this story has provided links to Lamar's refusal to put up signs of people it does not like:
Refusal to to honor contracts for "Shame on Jean Schmidt" billboards
Other cases
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Well the DNC tried to run a billboard in Mean Jean's area. Well one of the billboards the one that was in my state, West Virginia, said no, after they signed the contract. They said that the billboard was to negative, well here is one they ARE running....
Well the DNC tried to run a billboard in Mean Jean's area. Well one of the billboards the one that was in my state, West Virginia, said no, after they signed the contract. They said that the billboard was to negative, well here is one they ARE running....
Actually, instead of the constitution, I would send the idiot this quote from Thomas Jefferson:
"But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."
For the record, Ron, I'm just south of there, and have eaten a deer smacked by my own car before ;). Amusing story all around, though.
Funny, back to the sign, how religious belief has no history, at all, of ever promoting civil war. Ever. And speaking of history, doesn't the word "fundamentalist" have a specific, historical meaning, eh?
Jeez PZ, and you edit out my nice HK USP image?
Was it because I hotlinked, I sure am sorry.
I am tempted to put it up again, with a caption this time.
These people are animals PZ, can't you see? They really are terrible, terrible people. Beneath our contempt. Calling them animals is an insult to animals...
Anyone calling them troglodytes is insulting our closest cousin, pan troglodytes, without whom, we would not have nearly the medical knowledge we do, or the insight into our very earliest societies =)
We need to make up a new word to describe these bastards. One that fits their level of badness. something along the lines of "badong" ... but MORE intense!
Martin--
I seem to recall a French ancient historian saying, when asked about the Roman persecution of Christians, 'Too little, too late...' Though I fear no amount of persecution could ever cure people of self-righteous arrogance. Probably better to continue in the hope that most people will see through the stupidity and hypocrisy of this sign to the true authoritarian heart of Christianity-- the will to power.
Morning sun
How many more this morning are there dead of
The peace I came to bring a sword instead of?
H. Nemerov.
Nat
""Fundamentalists: ignorant thugs with a bible", which is plausibly read as a blanket statement"
Uh, so what?
"much as someone who responded to news accounts of violence perpetrated by, say, certain African-Americans with the statement "African-Americans: ignorant thugs with dark skin""
Not even close unless you're so racist that you believe that all black people have the same beliefs.
"Estimates I've seen state that around 60 million Americans identify themselves as Fundamentalist Christians."
Damn frightening, isn't it? 60 million people who think the Bible is literally true, 100% historical fact, and predicts the future.
"what do you make of Professor Mirecki resigning his chairmanship today?"
A pity. Mirecki thought that fundies were a blight on humankind and he could cite all sorts of evidence to support his belief.
He'll likely be replaced by a Christian who believes that anyone who worships another deity is going to spend all eternity in hell, and who has zilcho evidence to support that belief.
Seem fair to you, Nat?
Just a few comments for Nate...
PZ: You didn't just say "thugs"; you said "Fundamentalists: ignorant thugs with a bible", which is plausibly read as a blanket statement, much as someone who responded to news accounts of violence perpetrated by, say, certain African-Americans with the statement "African-Americans: ignorant thugs with dark skin" would plausibly be considered not just to be criticizing the specific criminals in question but to be making a broad racist statement.
I didn t realize that Fundamentalism was a racial category. You always have the choice of adopting or renouncing fundamentalism. You aren t given such a choice by society if you want to be black, white or whatever.
Estimates I've seen state that around 60 million Americans identify themselves as Fundamentalist Christians. In your many years of teaching, have you never had any of them as students? If you did have Fundamentalist students, how did they feel to have their teacher call them thugs?
Well, if if you follow the likes of Pat Robertson and his ilk, and you don t speak up when they call for God s wrath to come down on those that they don t happen to like, then you, in my opinion, are a supporter of their odious opinions. Maybe you are not acting as a thug, but you are consenting to be represented publicly by a thug. As far as I m concerned, that makes you a thug.
BTW, what do you make of Professor Mirecki resigning his chairmanship today?
We would appreciate a link. If this is true, I suspect that this would be an understandable response to being attacked by a couple of - wait for it - fundie thugs.
And now it's worse.
What is Christianity coming to? What is America coming to? Do I even want to know?
With this kind of message, knowing its a Christian reverend behind it, does this not ENFLAME anyone who isn't Christian? And for us Chrstians, does it not certainly make us want to say "WTF you can't do that?!"
And does this not just give other countries that aren't predominantly Christian one more reason to want to blow us up?!
This is the most un-Christian, anti-American billboard I have ever seen. Letting this billboard pass inspection is treason in and of itself for promoting non-constitutional values. Okay that's not "treason" but dammit it's something BAD!!
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Lunatic fringe In the twilight’s last gleaming This is open season But you won’t get too far We know you’ve got to blame someone...
Lunatic fringe In the twilight’s last gleaming This is open season But you won’t get too far We know you’ve got to blame someone...
The sad thing is that since this fellah is a self-proclaimed "Reverand," he probably had his equally deluded "flock" pick-up the tab for the sign; nothing came out of his pocket.
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That doesn't even make grammatical sense...