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Wednesday, October 26, 2005

Memery

Chris Clarke did this to me.

1. Of all the books that you have eventually finished after many starts & stops, which one took you the longest and how long did it eventually take?

I usually zip through books without much delay, but The Structure of Evolutionary Theory (amzn/b&n/abe/pwll) dang near killed me. It's dense and technical, and I dreaded every parenthesis. It took me about 3 months to get through it all.

2. What great band (or album or song) have you heard so often, you wouldn?t mind never hearing again even though you still think the band (or album or song) is great?

I'm going to pick a whole genre. It's almost Halloween, at which time corporate America will begin the incantations to raise Burl Ives and Bing Crosby and Gene Autry from their graves. By Thanksgiving, they'll all be in full-throated warble, and every seasonal novelty song written since the 40s will be played on our radios. By Christmas, I'll be trying to book a one horse open sleigh ride to Jerusalem, where on a midnight clear I will slip silently through the night to stake baby Jesus through the heart with one of the little drummer boy's sticks.

3. Which cliché or often cited quote needs to be placed in quarantine for a few decades?

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

Every clown and wanna-be revolutionary uses this to rationalize ridicule of their crazy ideas into a promise that one day, they will be recognized as true geniuses.

God is love.

No, he isn't. If he existed at all, the evidence suggests he must be one sick psychopath. Please don't try to tell me you're living a life of compassion and dedication to a sympathetic and loving being while you're trying to strip unbelievers, women, minorities, and gays of their civil rights—I'm not falling for it.

If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down.

Actually, any attempt by any creationist to a) invoke complexity as an anti-evolutionary argument, or b) dragoon the words of a scientist into the service of their religious dogma ought to be cause to hand him a bottle of Medoc and take him on a tour of some damp and niter-bestrewn vaults. Why settle for mere quarantine when immurement is an option? In pace requiescat!

4. During the 1990s "Compassion Fatigue" received a lot of press, now the media is giddy with "Donation Fatigue". What will be the next trendy fatigue?

Fatigue fatigue. We're getting tired of being told we're tired.

5. What percentage of respondents will answer "meme fatigue" to question #4?

None, because the whole point of question 5 is to make them come up with a different answer to question 4.

I'm supposed to pass this on. Since I have just discovered that I have blogchildren, but the ingrates never write or visit, I have no choice but to whine at afarensis, Schwaumlaut, Roman Roth, John Wilkins, and Evil Monkey. Consider yourself lucky; I could be nagging you about giving me grandchildren, or to put on my foot liniment.

And after you're done, I want you to tidy up your rooms and get on your homework!


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Comments:
#45450: — 10/26  at  07:25 AM
1. In the Blink of an Eye by Andrew Parker,has taken me since mid- summer off and on. I have read several other books during that time. My book was not a weighty tome like your example. I just tend to have a number books and magazines on my night stand all the time. I read these for enjoyment. Whatever suits my fancy that night is what I read.

2. God Bless America became part of baseball's seventh inning stretch in the aftermath of 9/11. If we keep singing this insipid song during baseball games, the terrorists have won.

3. If we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? I still chuckle every time I run across it. Although when I see it multiple times within a couple of days, I tend to despair.

4. Bush fatigue will be sweeping the nation.

5. It won't be 100%.



#45451: coturnix — 10/26  at  07:27 AM
I was waiting for this since I saw Chris tagged you. You did not dissapoint. Au contraire, made me laugh out loud and wake up my wife!



#45455: Schwaumlaut — 10/26  at  08:25 AM
http://kinselection.blogspot.com/2005/10/blogfilial-memery.html

I do these things instead of attending class. Sigh.



#45456: Kristine Harley — 10/26  at  08:33 AM
1. "Lord Jim," "The Mismeasure of Man," and "The Biology of Death: Origins of Mortality [in the process of finishing]." (Younger people on the bus get freaked out by the last title; older folks are very intrigued!)

2. "Have yourself a merry little Christmas." Judy Garland, I'm sorry.

3. "Everything happens for a reason." An empty phrase if there ever was one!

4. Grassroots-level Anti-Conspiracy Superhero fatigue ("THEY won't let us teach ID or ask questions about evolution, THEY don't mention God in biology because it's politically incorrect, why should I vaccinate my kid against polio" and blah, blah, blah.) This is a wish.

5. I'll wait and see.

5.



#45460: — 10/26  at  09:14 AM
1. Godel, Escher, Bach. This book took me 5 tries (more than Ulysses!) and I still feel like I need another two or three reads to fully get it all....



#45463: — 10/26  at  09:28 AM
It took me a full year to get through the Gould. But to be fair, I did read a whole bunch of other books at the same time, too. I also kind of cheated on it, too. I skipped the second half of the first chapter, where he outlines in great detail what the rest of the book is going to be about. If I'm planning to read it, why should I first read a summary? Especially one that goes on for about 50 pages?

Rrawr!



#45464: jre — 10/26  at  09:30 AM
For the love of God, Myers!

Yes, for the love of God!



#45467: — 10/26  at  09:46 AM
I had the same experience with The Structure of Evolutionary Thought! That particular tome took me five months to plough through. Admittedly I didn't read it the whole time. I would read it for a while, become saturated with Gould's writing (which I normally enjoy but found heavy in this book), and put it away for weeks. And I normally go through a couple of books a week!



#45471: coturnix — 10/26  at  10:09 AM
I am terrible - I usually have at least a dozen books that I am 'currently reading'. Some of those I'll never finish. Some will take days, weeks, months, or years to finish, but finish them I will (that is why I do not know which one took the longest - I am not keeping track). Others I swallow in a a few hours.

A good sci-fi novel, or a gripping piece of good fiction, is likely to be finished within hours. One that surprised me was "Four Trials" by John Edwards. When it came in the mail I decided to just skim the Introduction while standing in the middle of the living room. Less than four hours later I found myself finishing the book (and sitting in the armchair - not remembering how I got there) - it was gripping and moving, not a run-of-the-mill(worker) campaign book at all.

I read faster in summer - I take the kids to the pool. After a few minutes I get tired and get out of the water and pull out a book. While the kids are playing in the pool, I get to finish a few books per week - that is how I got to quickly read a bunch of stuff recently, from "Collapse" by Jared Diamond, and "Moral Politics" by George Lakoff, to "Biased Embryos and Evolution" by Wallace Arthur plus tons of sci-fi.

Structure of Evolutionary Theory took me about three months. That was a long-awaited book - Gould announced he's writing it in the introduction to his 1977 book "Ontogeny and Philogeny" so everyone's been waiting for it for decades! The heft of the volume suggested that this was not a book to quickly re-read on a regular basis - it looks like a book to read once, perhaps twice in one's life. So, better take this seriously and read it thoroughly and carefully. That is what I did - an hour or so every day, paying attention to every word and every sentence, stopping to think about what I've just read before continuing with the next paragraph.



#45477: — 10/26  at  10:45 AM
God is Love, you athiest atheyist unbelieving swine; is just that His Ways Are Mysterious to Man. So there!



#45479: Schwaumlaut — 10/26  at  10:55 AM
A Gideon gave me a New Testament on my way to physiology. It's a very curiously organized testament - it has an index in the front where it recommends various verses for various problems. It appears that the cure to cynicism is to ramble for a page about how knowledge is transitory, but love is perfect.



's avatar #45509: Zeno — 10/26  at  01:54 PM
Will & Ariel Durant's The Story of Civilization occupies a shelf of my library, but I can't remember if I've read the first four volumes or only the first three. Someday I'll finish all eleven, but each one so far took me weeks or months to finish. I have Gould's evolution tome, but have not been so bold as to start it yet. Gödel, Escher, Bach took a lot of work, too, but I did finish it.

PZ reminded me how much I dislike Xmas music. Every year there is too much of it and it begins too soon (and a lot is so bad). In particular: Oh, man, do I hate Little Drummer Boy!



#45539: — 10/26  at  05:20 PM
This is a repost, but particularly relevant here.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

To be fair, this quote should be put to death, never mind quarantined, as Schopenhauer apparently never said that.

He did, however, say something roughly along those lines, in the preface to the first edition of his 1818 book, Die Welt als Wille und Vorstellung. In E. F. J. Payne's English translation his remark reads:

"To truth only a brief celebration of victory is allowed between the two long periods during which it is condemned as paradoxical, or disparaged as trivial."


The stuff in italics is from (coincidentally enough) Jeffrey Shallit, in a random link at http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/~susan/cyc/l/law3.htm



#45541: Qalmlea — 10/26  at  05:55 PM
I'll chime in for Gödel, Escher, Bach. On my first attempt (wow...almost ten years ago, when I was still an undergrad), I made it maybe halfway through. Basically, I put it down, read something else, and forgot about it. I finally picked it up again last spring and made it all the way through. Good read, love the Escher pix, and lots of good ideas.
Oh, beauty: "strain" is my secret word, and GEB surely was a strain the first time I tried to read it! :D



#45546: — 10/26  at  07:00 PM
But I haven't finished reading "The Structure of Evolutionary Theory" yet...



#45548: — 10/26  at  07:28 PM
1. Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace. 1,100 pages, 100 of which are footnotes. Ten months from start to finish, only about two of which were spent between putting the book down in frustration and picking it back up due to the praise heaped upon it. Very very indulgent book, but entertaining enough in parts to make it not a regrettable read.

2. When I worked in a art frame factory last winter, someone always had the pop station on too loud, and so I heard Green Day's "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" about 263,378,964,023,648 times. Sure, it was better than the rest of the tripe on the radio, but not so good that it could be part of the half-hourly radio rotation for more than five months. I got to the point where I'd grit my teeth every time he got to the "Sometimes I wish someone out there will find me" part. It's "I wish someone WOULD find me", dammit!

3. "Methinks he doth protest too much." Every time someone has a legitimate complaint about something, someone else who disagrees or can't stand dissent or arguments has to try and be cute and intellectual by exhuming this Shakespeare passage that, odds are, they don't even know what play it comes from.

4. Outrage fatigue. See The Onion.

5. I bet it'd be low, since anyone who goes to the bother of filling out all these questions would hardly be tired of memes.



#45549: — 10/26  at  07:29 PM
Okay mine is up.



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