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Wednesday, November 19, 2003

Morons marching...worldwide

Jebus, they’re everywhere. By way of Gene Expression, I learn that medical students in Oslo are demanding that creationism be taught in their classes.



The Christian Medical Students Circle want three basic points to be included in the curriculum:
1 According to the theory of evolution a mutation must be immediately beneficial to survive through selection. But many phenomena explained by evolution (for example the eye) involve so many, small immediately detrimental mutations that only give a long-term beneficial effect.

This is not true. Even detrimental traits can be fixed in a population, and evolution is not solely about selection.

The eye is also a poor example for their case; what ‘detrimental mutations’ do they think are required? They might want to look at this lovely video clip of the evolution of the eye.

2 There is no fossil evidence to indicate transitional forms between, for example, fish and land animals or apes and humans.

What? Again, they have picked two examples where we do have rich collections of fossils representing major steps in those two transitions.

3 Evolution assumes too many extremely improbably events occurring over too short a span of time [?].

Vague nonsense. How improbable? Why are billions or millions of years insufficient?

This is depressing. I’ve gotten used to creationist idiots in the US, but I’ve always imagined that Scandinavia was more progressive and sensible.



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Comments:
#133: Ben — 11/20  at  07:17 AM
Vague nonsense. How improbable?

Exactly. Creationists often vaguely cite the "infinitesimal odds" of life arising in the universe to support arguments for the existence of their deity/deities. Wrong. The odds of life coming into existence in the universe are easy to quantify: precisely 1.



#134: Brent — 11/20  at  09:15 AM
Sometimes I think it's a problem of scale. Folks simply cannot imagine the immense amount of time that "a million years" is. A billion years is absolutely incomprehensible except in an abstract way. Add an "s" onto the end and it jumps into the realm where brains shut down and people begin to babble about gods and monsters.

So, Dawkin's "Argument From Personal Incredulity" rears it's head again. "I can't imagine it, so godiddit."



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