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Sunday, November 20, 2005

Naturals and Unnaturals

I think we've been dividing the world along the wrong axes. It's normal for us to dichotomize our interactions along simple, one-dimensional lines—liberal-conservative, men-women, atheist-theist—and while that is a useful way to categorize (as long as we don't get so committed to the extremes that we fail to recognize them as continua), I fear that we've neglected to notice one dimension that is extremely relevant to the current discourse.

One pole of the dichotomy is the one on which I think I mostly reside. These are people who are committed to reason, empiricism, and natural evidence—those who believe in the complete (or near complete) significance of the real world, the universe, all matter, energy, and laws of science to our lives. We agree that we lack a comprehensive understanding of the universe, but experience (that important empirical component) leads us to expect that studying our world ever more accurately is going to lead us to greater understanding. We atheists are prone to the over-reaching sin of associating this point of view specifically with our position on religion, but I would suggest that there is more to it than that. There are devout Christians who are no less committed to the natural view, even if they do suspend it to some degree when they're in a church…I can't hold that against them, since I do the same thing in the bedroom (it's true, I do worship the Goddess now and then.) Similarly, this view cuts across political lines, too, and some conservatives and liberals respect it, and some reject it.

I need a label, so I'm going to call those people who consider material evidence paramount and regard the real world as a mostly sufficient container of phenomena that define our existence the Naturals. I consider myself one of them, so I think these are the good guys, for the most part; it doesn't mean that all Naturals are correct in all matters, though, because there are many whose interpretations of evidence I disagree with, and vice versa. All that is important is that we agree that measurement and testing and analysis are the best ways to resolve our differences.

What's the contra position? There are those who think inspiration and intuition and all the internal imagery of their minds define their external reality; that what they wish to be so will be so if only they can articulate it and select and distort evidence for the purposes of persuasion. What they see is only applicable and interesting if it reinforces their presuppositions, and all else is a lure and a distraction, an illusion that must be disregarded or rationalized to fit into a predetermined explanation. Many religious people are examples: they have a vision of an unseen power that acts on the world, and despite the lack of evidence and frequent contradictions between their beliefs and reality, they insist on interpreting everything as a shadow of something impalpable and unimaginable.

I'm going to call them Unnaturals, plainly enough.

Obvious examples of Unnatural extremism are Pat Robertson and his unfounded belief in a vengeful God who is going kneecap anyone who disagrees with him; the members of the Bush administration who mangled evidence to justify going to war, and decided to ignore the expertise of their generals and prosecute that war with insufficient force; and every creationist on the planet. It should also be obvious that there are ranges of Unnatural activity, and even Pat Robertson uses a spoon to eat his cornflakes rather than praying to God to levitate it into his mouth (I hope. One can't be entirely sure with Evil Uncle Chuckles.) Strictly speaking, Unnaturalism is an activity or way of thinking, not individuals themselves, although some do do an amazingly consistent job of personifying the principle.

On the other side, we find Rev. Coyne, the Vatican astronomer who dismisses Intelligent Design, who is clearly mostly a Natural supporting science and evolution, but who occasionally tosses out an Unnatural bon mot about his religious beliefs, or Richard Dawkins, who is much more consistent in his commitment to naturalism—but Rev. Coyne and Dawkins probably have more in common in their ideas than they have in opposition.

Where all this is useful is in helping us distinguish useful arguments from Unnatural nonsense, and in characterizing debates rhetorically. For instance, we don't oppose Ken Ham and Kent Hovind and similar reverend creationists because they are Christians, but because they are Unnatural Christians who defy reasonable Augustinian principles of respecting the evidence of (in their opinion) God's Creation. We don't necessarily oppose George W. Bush because he is a Republican politician, but because he practices Unnatural politics, the advocacy of unrealistic goals by impractical means. I'd like to chew out Democrat Tom Harkin for his unnatural support of 'alternative' medicine, too, so this isn't solely a Republican foible.

Anyway, a number of people have falsely assumed that I and other atheists hate religious people. This is not true; instead, we simply despise Unnatural thinking. I'd be more willing to take greater care about avoiding blanket condemnations of the religious if they in turn would be more willing to recognize when their thinking has taken an Unnatural turn, and recognize that Unnatural arguments have absolutely no weight with me, and should have no weight with other rational people.

(crossposted to The American Street)

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Comments:
#49976: — 11/20  at  09:40 PM
Can we bring Mr Natural out of retirement to be our mascot? I liked him a lot when he was at Zap Comics.


Now that Flakey Foont is the US President we need Mr N more than ever.



#49982: — 11/20  at  10:50 PM
I question whether we can BE rational consistently, on two grounds.

First, there's a lot of evidence that we cannot, that we did not evolve as rational creatures. To the extent we can overcome our irrationalist nature, Professor Myers and I are the true Unnaturals. It ain't natural to believe in naturalism.

Second, we just don't have time to sit down and puzzle out everything we think we know. And reasoning about it isn't that helpful. That's what got Aquinas in trouble.

After reason, test, as Professor Myers says.

Or, as W. Edwards Deming, who taught the Japanese to build better cars, used to say: You have to have a theory. If you don't have a theory, how can you tell when you're wrong?

(Deming charged $10,000 to hear that; I offer it free of charge.)

The difference might be subtle, but the divide between Naturals/Unnaturals is related to the divide between the Certains/Tentatives.

As evolutionists are fond of saying, the environment determines the correct response. Whether the Certain overcomes the Tentative depends on circumstances.

And it isn't difficult to think of political/social questions about which it is impossible, or at least very difficult, to say that the Natural position trumps the Unnatural, or even which position is to be ascribed to which outlook. For example, affirmative action.

Socially, the divide is between those who have too much to do and those who have nothing to do. 'Growing Up Absurd,' which was a popular book when I was young, turned out to be exactly backward.



#49986: ekzept — 11/20  at  11:12 PM
And reasoning about it isn't that helpful. That's what got Aquinas in trouble.
it's also what got Russell-Whitehead into trouble. but the conclusion is not fleeing from reason, nor it is embracing "intuition" or superstition, the need and the solution are to prize knowledge of the exogenous world, both in factual and process kinds. alas, Aquinas was not open and would never be satisfied by doing merely that.



#49994: — 11/21  at  12:23 AM
I think the distinction is a very useful one, but I'm not so big on naming the two sides and referring to them as such (as mentioned above, it brings back icky "bright" memories).

What makes the distinction really valuable, I think, is that we often conflate it with religiosity, and we shouldn't. I know a fair number of people who would ridicule the religious in a heartbeat, but themselves believe in some combination of chiropractors, autism/vaccination links, kooky health food claims, loopy alternative medicine, and often any generally crummy half-science that happens to support their beliefs.

The segment of the population that generally rejects all of the above is, I think, rather small. It can be lonely being an all around skeptic...

The fact that so many people believe strongly in *something* goofy and unsupported says a lot about human behavior I suppose. Religion's just historically done the best job of fulfilling whatever tendency that is.



#49995: Alon Levy — 11/21  at  12:25 AM
I'm not sure about this distinction, PZ. It looks sound from where I'm standing, but I need to see some evidence that it applies in the real world. Examples of failure to apply in the real world are a case in which 3% of the people are naturals and 97% are unnaturals, and a case in which you can't find any important political issue the two opposing alliances on are natural and unnatural.

Aren't the words "essentialist" and "existentialist" applicable to this dichotomy without inventing words where the dichotomy isn't as pretty as it looks, and the word "unnatural" has an unbeleivably negative connotation?

I don't think they are; the words essentialism and existentialism both carry significant baggage, with essentialism having a specific meaning in the context of gender issues and existentialism being a specific philosophy.

You say at the beginning that those are all continua, but they are not. The rest of the post is a list of examples of the ways people partition their worlds into natural and natural. In other words, on any topic, you can pick a natural or an unnatural explanation - there is nothing grey or in-between, or semi-demi-natural, i.e., there is no continuum.

Two things: first, suppose you're right and each situation has a natural and an unnatural explanation; then you can create a continuum based on how often a person believes the natural explanation. By and large the people at each shade of gray will have very similar partitions, or maybe 2-3 arch-partitions that everyone's partition is similar to one of. To use an example of liberalism vs. conservatism, the people at the 50th percentile have a fairly consistent division into liberal views, conservative views, and middle-of-the-road views (is someone who thinks personhood begins at week 22 a liberal or a conservative?).

Second, I don't think your view that an explanation is either natural or unnatural is quite right. It's right in the trivial sense that everyone can get using a little formal logic, but then all you show is that a discretization exists; it's like arbitrarily dividing the nonzero complex numbers into positive and negative numbers. For example, if you don't know about the studies showing that homeopathy has a placebo effect, and you're confronted with the fact that homeopathy really helps people, what do you conclude if you want to be a naturalist? Or, what do you do when there are two competing natural explanations (e.g. transformational grammar vs. Sapir-Whorf)?

Third, people represent views. It's not just people who believe a certain combination of natural and unnatural, or liberal and conservative, ideas; these combinations create real worldviews, such as theistic evolution, communism, and libertarianism (is it considered natural or unnatural to think Marx was right?).



#50008: — 11/21  at  05:56 AM
Coturnix quoted:
"But from a cognitive perspective, defined by modes of thought,
there are just six:...."

these may reduced to 2:

1. The man be keepin' me down.

2. We're from the government, we're here to help



#50015: — 11/21  at  07:46 AM
First of all, what's wrong with the pre-existing terms "naturalist" vs. "supernaturalist"?

Likewise, "fallibilist" is appealing, but there's already a word for that. It's called "humility", adjective "humble".

As far as dichotomies, psychology tells us that the most basic (primitive) form is "infantile dualism", so called because it appears so early in human development. At this stage, everything is either one or the other, and anything which is not "one" must necesarily be "other". From there, intellect first brings us to what I'll call "continuous dualism", where we recognize the intermediates. Then we recognize that there can be more than one axis, which I'll dub "multiple dualism", but we still have a natural tendency to project everything onto whatever axis we're thinking about. (If the tool to hand is a hammer....) The idea that a given axis may simply be irrelevant is pretty hard for most people to wrap their minds around. (From an old joke: "But are you a Catholic Jew, or a Protestant Jew?")

The open outlook of science is an advanced construction of intellect. For most people, it really doesn't come naturally, and the only reason it survives at all, is that it's just so damn successful! To spread it among the population requires concerted attention to education -- and that, of course, is what the IDers, fundies in general, and the ShrubCo mob, are trying to interfere with.

(Off-topic: WhyTH does this edit-box keep yanking me into a Blogger menu every time I type an apostrophe? Very annoying!)



#50023: — 11/21  at  08:32 AM
Your dichotomy is real, and we need a broader social conversation about it. We need to convert people in the middle to the rational side, and people on the “unnatural” side to the middle, so that they have a personal faith, but prefer or accept reality-based decisions in public life. Thus for once I don’t see sneering and demonizing the other side as useful.

For this reason, I see Natural and Unnatural as a naming problem that will derail the conversation before it gets started (natural foods and medicines versus unnatural sex acts). "Empirical" is available but is not widely understood except by professional empiricists. "Rationalist" has a fine history, but "Irrationalist" is too negative. How about “reality-based” and “faith-based”?



#50024: — 11/21  at  08:37 AM
Or "knowledge-based" or "fact-based" versus "faith-based"?



#50034: Keith Douglas — 11/21  at  09:25 AM
Some philosophers, including myself, have often thought about how to organize world views in various ways. (Mario Bunge has a typology of 10 or something in his Philosophy in Crisis.) I have thought for a while it might be nifty to write a computer program to help you figure out where you stand on a bunch of things and point out inconsistencies and tensions. (For instance, if you claim you believe numbers exist and that you are a materialist can run you into trouble unless you adopt a Maddy-like view in the philosophy of math.) Anyone here want such a thing? I make no guarantees about being able to actually do it, but I'm curious as to the outcome of this question. (It is also something of the goal of the book I am slowly co-authoring.)

BTW, "naturalism" is sometimes also taken to deny levels of organization with emergent properties over the biopsychological - denial of the reality of social groups. This is why (to distinguish - that's all stipulations are good for) I tend to describe myself in other ways that avoid this confusion. Here are a few that are all correct of me. Note that I take these to be distinct, though interrelated. I think part of the interesting thing is that one can (at least psychologically speaking) be some of these and not the others, whence the difference in views amongst people.

materialist
scientific realist
atheist
socialist
ratio-empircist
mathematical fictionalist



#50035: — 11/21  at  09:27 AM
Naturals and unnaturals? I thought you didn't care for Dennet and his "Bright" ideas. Oh, well. It takes a village.



#50037: ekzept — 11/21  at  10:03 AM
ah, a comment appropriate to the thread and the day, for it is the author's birthday:
Men will always be mad, and those who think they can cure them are the maddest of all.
-- Voltaire, 1762



#50065: — 11/21  at  12:00 PM
What PZ has laid out here reminds me of the them developed in Daniel Harbour's excellent book, "The Intelligent Person's Guide to Atheism," which contrasts the "Baroque Monarchy" (multiple assumptions that cannot be challenged; all new facts must be made to fit into existing framework) to the "Spartan Meritocracy" (as few assumptions as possible, only added to as the evidence merits). Basically, what PZ has provided here sums nicely what the book is about, but if you this essay has whetted your appetite for more thought on this distinction between naturals and unnaturals, I recommend "Guide" for its many examples.



#50083: — 11/21  at  02:00 PM
Another terminology which provides an ear-catching taxonomy is already available:
‘71-hour Ahmed was not superstitious. He was substitious, which put him in a minority among humans. He didn’t believe in the things everyone believed in but which nevertheless weren’t true. He believed instead in the things that were true in which no one else believed. There are many such substitions, ranging from ‘It’ll get better if you don’t pick at it’ all the way up to ‘Sometimes things just happen.’” - Terry Pratchett, Jingo, pg 238



#50150: Paul Decelles — 11/21  at  09:21 PM
This is an interesting distinction, but as a poet as well as a biologist, intuition and inspiration are important to me. However, I do not mystify (as in make mystical) these tools by claiming they result from some sort of supernatural power apart from scientific laws. Maybe rather than natural vs unnatural, use natural vs mystical. Natural thinking then means adherence to the idea that explanations and the way we make the universe work is through application of the laws of science. If homeopathy does help people then there must be an explanation consistant with the laws of science or some entirely new yet testable principle to which the rest of the laws of science must be consistant. A natural would presumably test hypotheses that based on current scientific understanding and not immediately jump to a claim of a new principle. This is really why we reject intelligent design. ID is mystical thinking because it posits something outside of normal scientific principles and like vitalism of the early 20th century makes no attempt to extend scientific principles in a testable manner.



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