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Sunday, June 12, 2005

Pinkoski again: How stupid can creationism get?

I've been having some fun with a bizarrely didactic creationist comic book by one Jim Pinkoski that purports to explain all the flaws in evolutionary biology. What it really is is the most astounding collection of bad creationist arguments I've ever seen gathered in one place. I've been trying to slog through rebuttals, but unfortunately, it's like every word and phrase is so far off kilter that it's going to take me forever to get through it. One putative "problem" that I've already dealt with is that we only use 10% of our brains, and so scientists are stupid and untrustworthy, but here's another one: evolution requires that everything be extraordinarily brilliant. Or in comic book speak,

Evolutionists are saying that "teeny-tiny" life forms somehow willed themselves to "evolve," which means that we must credit
MICROBES
with being smarter than Albert Einstein!!!

How many errors can we find in that one sentence? Well, evolutionists have never said anything of the sort, evolution isn't a matter of willing new features into existence, and no one credits bacteria with high intelligence. Pinkoski illustrates this bogus concept with a "steg-o-moeba" trying to will itself into becoming a stegosaurus.

Pinkoski's errors
Pinkoski's errors

Here's a closeup of that little amoeba wishing it were bigger and had eyes. Cute. But totally divorced from reality.

This is entirely contrary to what evolutionary biology actually teaches: there is no intelligence behind changes. There are variations within populations, and the variants that are most successful at coping with local, short-term conditions are represented at a higher frequency in subsequent generations. Pinkoski's ideas are actually anti-evolutionary, and even have a technical term associated with them: orthogenesis. If there were actually a program of evolution driven by the will of organisms, that would be evidence against evolution. You can't refute modern biology by inventing a thoroughly silly argument, and pointing out how silly it is—because evolutionary biologists will also tell you how silly it is. It is a classic straw man.

It gets better. Take one straw man, and compound it with a gross misunderstanding of how animals develop, and turn it into a mega-straw man, a Tyrannosaurus rex of straw.

If "evolution" is true, then each major life form would have to evolve it's own eyes (as well as every other major organ of its body)!

Again, if evolution is true, it predicts exactly the opposite: new species do not evolve the majority of their features anew, but inherit them from the parent species. Homo sapiens did not have to generate four limbs, a head, a pancreas, a spine, etc. de novo—we got those from our predecessors. The process is called descent with modification, not descent with reinventing everything all over again every time.

Orthogenesis, weird ideas about evolution without inheritance…Pinkoski is about to ratchet the absurdity up a few notches with his very own novel thoughts about bilateral symmetry.

Common sense tells us that "evolving" all the individual parts of the eye is impossible, but I want to address an aspect that most overlook—
Pinkoski's errors
If the "eye" really evolved, when did all these animals decide that 2 eyes were better than only 1 eye??
"Evolution" depends largely on mutation—and it only makes sense that if an "eye" suddenly mutated into existence, then that animal would only grow 1 of them!!
SO WHERE ARE ALL THE 1-EYED T-REXES, 1-EYED ALLOSAURS, 1-EYED STEGOSAURS, 1-EYED VELOCIRAPTORS, ETC.?? WHERE?!!

Ouch. That's so stupid it hurts to read it. Apparently, Pinkoski has this vision of evolution in which each new species arises from an amoeba, which has to sprout each of its organs by force of will, and each step lingers about long enough to limp about and leave fossils of its pathetic intermediate state. It's not just eyes, it is the whole shebang.

Believe it or not, "bilaterally symmetrical" prove how impossible evolution is! Just like it was stated on the previous page about the evolution of the eye, the same thing applies to arms, to hands, to feet, to ears, to fins and to wings, etc.!

EVOLUTION SAYS THAT EACH OF THESE ORGANS EVOLVED BY MUTATION, AND IF THIS WAS TRUE THE MUTATION WOULD HAVE BROUGHT FORTH ONE OF THESE BODY PART AT A TIME! SO, WHERE ARE THE 1-FINNED TURTLES, 1-WINGED BIRDS, 1-FLIPPERED PORPOISES, AND THE 1-ARMED 1-EARED 1-LEGGED "APE MEN"??

Evolution is refuted because there are no fossils of one-winged pigeons lacking a pancreas and a beak? If there were collections of the kinds of organisms Pinkoski describes, we'd have to reject evolution, because clearly there would be some extremely peculiar piecemeal assembly of animals going on—the kinds of transformations that would violate modern biology's conception of organisms as integrated wholes.

Just as I've inherited four limbs and a head from the great and ancient tetrapod class, so too is bilateral symmetry an inheritance from ancestors even farther back. Bilateral symmetry is over half a billion years old. What it reflects is the presence of signalling molecules that define dorsal and ventral (back and front), molecules that define identical domains on the left and right sides. Your left and right eye are not independent creations, but are instead the product of the same genes expressing themselves in response to simpler signals that are active on both the left and right sides of your head during embryonic development. It actually requires specific, additional mechanisms to break symmetry, and vertebrates that are normally lopsided, like flounder, are generated by a secondary modification of initially symmetrical forms.

Pinkoski's argument rests on a total absence of awareness about what biological evolution really says. Creationism is an intrinsically ignorant enterprise that crumbled away long ago for people who actually study the evidence, and only persists in those who refuse to examine the science behind it, and think that stacking misconceptions on top of one another is a path to the truth. This particular creationist story got nothing right.

  • Evolution does not occur because individuals want it to happen. Mutations arise by chance, and populations evolve by the survival of favorable (and sometimes not so favorable) variants.
  • Every new species is not an independent creation. It inherits a full suite of characters from its parent population, and modifies their expression.
  • Intermediate forms are not incomplete or non-functional or lacking in major characters. Every species is complete and successful in itself, but is different. Evolution is about acquiring differences, not a drive towards some superior, more complex form.
  • Bilateral symmetry is not a problem for evolution. Mutations that generate a feature on one side of an animal tend to be in response to molecular signals that are present on both sides of the organism; paired features are often easier to evolve than asymmetries in animals that are inherently bilateral.

The disturbing thing is that this pack of lies is part of a series of which a quarter million copies have been distributed by Amazing Facts, a "media ministry" (I guess that's what they call it nowadays to avoid the taint of the word "televangelism") based in Roseville, California, and led by a genuine, literal troglodyte, Doug Batchelor. It's 56 pages long, and every sentence is either cockamamie nonsense or outright lies. As a science educator, I have to look at this thing and think…boy, do I have a lot of work to do.

(crossposted to The American Street)

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Comments:
's avatar #28244: Nullifidian — 06/13  at  03:42 AM
1. Well, I'm sure this work is very cool. It's too bad I can't understand any of it unless someone like you digests it for the layman - I can't even read papers in my own field and understand them.

There's some discussion of assymetries in Enrico Coen's layman level book on developmental biology, The Art of Genes. That might be useful to you. One drawback of the book is that he includes his own "easy to understand" terms for the biochemical processes that go on in development and doesn't bother to include a note about what the true technical term is (e.g. talking about "colours," meaning ligands, but neglecting to note that bride of sevenless is a membrane-bound ligand), so while its explanations may give a layman a fair grasp of the basic ideas, it doesn't help them pursue the subject to any deeper level in future.

"We are obliged, therefore, to spread the news, painful and bitter though it may be for some to hear, that all living things on earth are kindred.” Edward Abbey, Desert Solitaire



's avatar #28245: Nullifidian — 06/13  at  03:50 AM
Actually re-reading that, I note that I skipped over something equally confusing, and therefore my explanation might confuse another person. When Enrico Coen speaks of "colours," he's not always speaking of ligands, but also the transcriptional activators, and perhaps also the proteins that are being produced by the activation of transcription/translation.

"We are obliged, therefore, to spread the news, painful and bitter though it may be for some to hear, that all living things on earth are kindred.” Edward Abbey, Desert Solitaire



#28246: — 06/13  at  03:50 AM
Poo on you, pough- I was going to say the same thing about the 0.5 percent of the brain required to understand creationism!

Mr. Pinkoski- you said:
Here's a supposed extra-brilliant science person, and what is he doing to credit the creative brilliance of all life around him?? He says that it all got here by "NO INTELLIGENCE"!!! Ha! What a brilliant conclusion to defend evolution with!

To cut you some slack, this is a difficult idea to swallow; that the obvious brilliance of design seen in living things is the result of chance. The quintessence is that while mutations are undirected, the ones that survive are directed, chosen by natural selection. Therein lies the "intelligence"- not in some Supernatural Being, but in the merciless demands of the ever-more complicated environment. The most accessible (non-biologist) explanation I know of, of how this can work, is Darwin's Dangerous Idea by Daniel Dennett.

And if you think that brilliant design requires an explanation (it does, of course), then how do you explain the existence of the (presumably) brilliant God? Was He created by SuperDuperGod? Or if He was always here, why can't an "intelligent" universe simply always have been here? Postulating an intelligent Creator only postpones the problem of explaining intelligence- it explains nothing.



#28252: Joseph Paduda — 06/13  at  05:26 AM
First, thanks to all the eminently wise who have graciously contributed their time to filleting Mr. Pinkoski...or perhaps I would more accurately say "dissecting". Except that is clearly against God's laws...

I ask your indulgence to make a point via a rather convoluted path.

Because all these really smart people are taking up 99.5% of their brains to refute an idiot (who does draw really cool pictures), they are not working in more productive areas, say stem cell research. And, because smart people from other countries now can't get into the US because they may be bad people (far fetched as that is), lots of really good research is taking place in other countries. So, those countries will "evolve" faster than the US will.

The result is a classic example of Darwinism on a global scale. Pinkoski and his ilk will keep us in the primordial ooze while we will be "outcompeted" by more intelligent life forms.

But at least we'll feel better, knowing that an all-knowing power has chosen this destiny for us.



#28254: — 06/13  at  05:50 AM
It's a bit awkward to discuss basic biological concepts with someone who thinks "like a political cartoonist" and apparently has never studied a standard textbook on the subject. Pinkovski condemns
the foolishness of ANY microorganism being able to grow into a multicellular larger life form
but he has chosen a very bad argument against the fact of evolution, because that specific transition - from mono to multicellular organism - is very well documented and there are hundreds if not thousands living species that illustrate every imaginable intermediate stage. It is not like the missing link argument, that demands to see all the intermediate fossil forms between species and can never get enough of them because evolution doesnt work that way and because fossils are so scarce. But there are species that are monocellular and multicellular according to circumstances, they are out there evolving fine without any need of intelligence.

Pinkovski's post is not fake because he does not try to defend the factuality of his cartoons, he knows that one-eyed dinosaurs are a figment of his imagination and he is knowingly using them to make science look a caricature of itself, easy to dismiss. Should he apply his arts to some living personage or a religion, he would be sued and forced to defend his ideas in a court. One of the ways of discouraging Pinkovski, a talented illustrator making a laughingstock of science, would be to sue him. Or better, following PZ, to make fun of his talking amoebas and one-eyed dinosaurs! Really, what kind of sick mind would dream of such sick animals?



#28257: Bryson Brown — 06/13  at  07:05 AM
Mnemosyne: I seem to remember that the right-left mirror reversal of organs is not that uncommon amongst identical twins. (Though perhaps that should be conjoined twins...) Can anyone confirm that?



#28261: Bryson Brown — 06/13  at  08:26 AM
Jim P writes:

Later he said that "Creationism is an intrinsically ignorant enterprise" -- when Creationism incorporates the belief in an all-powerful truly INTELLIGENT God! So the idea that Creationism is "ignorant" is completely wrong, PZ, Creationism is BRILLANCE AT WORK all around us!


A beautiful example of an attribution fallacy: Because creationism invokes an intelligent cause, believing in creationism is an intelligent to do.

Jim also endorses the converse argument:

I'll quote PZ: "Evolutionary biology teaches that there is NO INTELLIGENCE behind the changes"! Hey, "no intelligence" is right!! Here's a supposed extra-brilliant science person, and what is he doing to credit the creative brilliance of all life around him?? He says that it all got here by "NO INTELLIGENCE"!!! Ha!


These arguments do a beautiful job of reinforcing PZ's point. But Jim's efforts aren't completely wasted: I think I'll be using these as examples in my next intro logic course.



's avatar #28262: PZ Myers — 06/13  at  08:41 AM
It's very strange that Pinkoski thinks the strength of creationism is that it requires intelligence to create new forms, while his way of criticizing evolution is to mischaracterize it as requiring intelligence to create new forms.

PZ Myers
Division of Science and Math
University of Minnesota, Morris



#28265: — 06/13  at  09:02 AM
About a quarter of identical/monozygotic twins have mirror reversal. It is most probably due to relatively late separation of the embryo. Even later separation leaves twins conjoined. A reversed singleton could be the result of twinning followed by reabsorption. Chimeras can result from absorption of a non-identical/fraternal/dizygotic twin but are very rare - as are non-identical but monozygotic twins due to genetic abnormality. It's a tough world of embryo "eat" embryo in the womb.



Trackback: This eye thing works pretty well Tracked on: Three Way News (72.9.234.70) at 2005 06 13 09:05:41
Pharnygula takes down a creationist comic book. I learn a lot reading Pharyngula. I guess I should've paid more attention in high school.



#28268: Jim Pinkoski — 06/13  at  09:18 AM
To Zilch -- The Bible claims to be communication from God, so when it tells us that God "always" existed, it's far beyond our ability to understand it (at least right now) --but there is a logic to it all that DOES make sense: the Universe is running down, it shows that it was a created thing, and it only makes sense that the only type of Being that could create the Universe is an Eternal Being, i.e., God! And the one main message of the Bible is that if you will BELIEVE in that God, He will one day give you eternal life so that you can be around to learn more about Him and His Universe. Refuse to believe in Him, and this one life on earth is all you get.

To Virge -- All creationists are people coming from different backgrounds and levels of understanding; I have a cartoonist's background, my focus is to simplify and discuss my current conclusions (which always have the freedom to change and vary) -- PZ focuses on the hard science, so he obviously will find my material "lacking," so he needs to debate those Creationists who also have a science back ground, and there are hundreds if not thousands of those scientists out there! In fact, I'd like to see PZ debate Kent Hovind -- tons of you guys complain that Hovind's wrong, SO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND DEBATE THE MAN AND PROVE IT! He's more than willing to take on any challengers -- SO DO IT! Not one of you has been able to do so yet, SO LET'S GET TO IT, GUYS!

Regarding "evolutionary biology," I have no problem with scientists studying micro-evolution -- micro-evolution is real, it happens all around us, it's no problem! The problem is with MACRO-evolution and the idea that all life got here "by chance" and with no input of intelligence -- and I'm not stupid enough to buy into that hogwash!

Back when I said that single cells cannot evolve to become massive life forms (multi-celled lifeforms), what I should have done is back up the statement to cover the fact that the very first single cell itself could have NEVER even come into existence by itself! Saying that the single cell couldn't become multi-celled left the door open to you guys slamming me -- when I meant to say that the innitial cell NEVER had a chance to get itself together via "chance" evolution!

BTW, there were a lot of other "observations" in my book that PZ avoided commenting on -- and the argument for Creationism is not just a single good point, there are HUNDREDS of scientific arguments that support Creationism and scientists in all those fields are beginning to agree that God exists and God created all of it!



#28269: pough — 06/13  at  09:21 AM
BTW, I've seen that Amazing Facts show on tv while flipping channels. It really lives up to the first part of its name. It gives you a pretty good idea of how messed up you can get when you filter everything through a document as old and chaotic as the Bible. I found it to be funny and horrifying at the same time.



#28270: — 06/13  at  09:32 AM
Refuse to believe in Him, and this one life on earth is all you get.

Mr. Pinkoski- what can I say, except to quote from my Bible:
Calvin: "What if there is no afterlife? What if this is all we get?" Hobbes: "Oh, what the heck. I'll take it anyway."

I'm with the tomcat.

And as far as debating Hovind goes, er, I have a roast in the oven- someone else want to tackle this?



#28271: — 06/13  at  10:07 AM
To Zilch -- The Bible claims to be communication from God, so when it tells us that God "always" existed, it's far beyond our ability to understand it (at least right now) --but there is a logic to it all that DOES make sense: the Universe is running down, it shows that it was a created thing, and it only makes sense that the only type of Being that could create the Universe is an Eternal Being, i.e., God.

So if God is a being "far beyond" our ability to understand Him, why do creationists keep insisting on the most simplistic explanations possible of God's work?

That's what drives me most nuts about creationists -- they want to reduce God down to something small enough for their limited brainpower to understand, rather than realizing that God's work is so large and so complicated that scientists have to dedicate their entire lives to understanding one small corner of it.

They insist that the two mutually exclusive creation stories in Genesis 1 and 2 are the literal truth, and not God trying to explain His work in simple terms to a group of illiterate sheepherders in the ancient Middle East.

Jim Pinkoski, why is your God so very small that he could not create and set in motion evolution itself, but instead is restricted to taking action that is within your comprehension?



#28272: — 06/13  at  10:07 AM
Actually, this may be a key point in the argument of creationist. And maybe the easiest way to refute their beliefs.

If there is a good, simple, easy to understand explaination of how things can change over time without the need for intelligence, this may show some of the fence-sitters that evolution does not need intelligence to reach the level of variation we currently see among life on earth.

For this is the key point. People who understand how evolution by natural selection works, fully understand how intelligence is not necessary for it to work.

People who don't understand how evolution works, even if they are not creationists, have a hard time understanding the idea of evolution without attempting to invoke a direction to it. The sticking point is to them is what causes the direction.

I think Mr. Pinkoski fully believes that evolution must have some intelligence behind it. It should be no surprise that he considers PZ Myers' argument that evolution by natural selection works without a guiding intelligence is laughable.

This isn't a 'God is in the gaps' problem, but a sapienocentric bias (which word I may have just coined. At least I've never heard it before). One of the features of a sapienocetric bias is that only intelligence can cause change. Under this viewpoint, it's not too surprising that an increase in sapienocentric thought is happening now when mankind as a whole is more and more in control it's living enviroment.

Just a couple of thoughts during lunch.

Cheers,

-Flex



#28273: — 06/13  at  10:10 AM
badJim -- I like to sneeze, but the volume and force of my sneezes tend to frighten the people around me. wink Plus, it's disconcerting to be sneezing for such a strange reason as "suddenly sees bright light."

Though I notice that Jim Pinkoski didn't explain why God designed 25% of us to sneeze when we go from a dark room into the bright sunlight. I still want to know if it was a practical joke or not.



#28274: Bryson Brown — 06/13  at  10:15 AM
Seems that Jim's definition of 'stupid' is anyone who doesn't agree with me. As for answers to creationist arguments, maybe he should have a look at Talkorigins.org -- though it's hard to be optimistic that he'll understand any of it. Jim's approach needs a little modesty, and that's one virtue one doesn't find in blowhard creationists.

Why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, But considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Or, just to make the point entirely obvious: Jim: What makes you think that people who've spent their adult lives studying biology are stupid to believe in evolution? How much biology do you know, and who taught it to you? If you just begin with a religious view & reject any science that runs against it, then you'd better go back to a geocentric, flat-earth position & have done with science altogether.



#28276: UrsulaV — 06/13  at  10:28 AM
Speaking as an illustrator, seeing that much talent in the service of evil...god, it's like kryptonite.



#28287: — 06/13  at  12:40 PM
by the way, Jim, Hovind has been covered a number of times on this site, and he's not a scientist, he's an enthusiastic guy with a degree-mill diploma, who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.



#28290: — 06/13  at  12:55 PM
I should just mention that when I have discussed Ron Wyatt on Seventh-day Adventist forums with Jim Pinkoski, he resorted to comparing Ron Wyatt's spectacular discoveries to the "revelations" that the SDA prophet Ellen White had. And indeed, there is a strong comparison to be made. You get some of the peculiar SDA/Ellen White notions in both Pinkoski's and Wyatt's writings about, say, Noah's ark, and of course Ron and Jim credit God for Ron finding a number of the most crucial Biblical artifacts ever.

The weird thing is that many SDAs think ill of Wyatt's and Pinkoski's claims. Yet I believe that their own stores carry Pinkoski's cartoon book. And perhaps to indicate the sorts of infighting that goes on in these little corners, Cliff Goldstein (who has a monthly column in their church paper, Adventist Review) writes about as badly of Wyatt as he does of any SDA who accepts "Darwinism". I pointed out to him on one forum that Wyatt would probably agree with his creationist stance more than most competent SDA archeologists would, but typically he knows when not to comment.

Anyhow, it's difficult to disentangle the various competing orthodoxies. Jim Pinkoski has a sort of direct revelation to the faithful Wyatt going on, Wyatt's "discovery of the ark" to bolster his Genesis story, and a cartoon book which conceals the various influences on it. Goldstein, the pitbull for the orthodox SDAs is highly supportive of their prophetess, but is unwilling to grant Wyatt and Pinkoski their claims of God-inspiration.

It's usually too much for even me to get into, and I did learn that stuff while growing up SDA. The beautiful aspect of this all is that the weird little world of direct inspiration and Ellen White's "messages to the church" had a remarkable influence on the creationism "movement", through McReady Price and particularly via Price's influence on Henry Morris. The IDists distance themselves from all of this, but of course keep anyone vaguely Christian and anti-evolutionist within their campmeeting tent.



#28296: — 06/13  at  01:25 PM
In fact, I'd like to see PZ debate Kent Hovind -- tons of you guys complain that Hovind's wrong, SO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND DEBATE THE MAN AND PROVE IT! He's more than willing to take on any challengers -- SO DO IT! Not one of you has been able to do so yet, SO LET'S GET TO IT, GUYS!

I know this has been covered here before, but, please, Mr. Pinkoski, do a little more research before making this statement.

And that's just the first random one I found.



's avatar #28299: PZ Myers — 06/13  at  02:00 PM
I'm willing to debate Hovind any time, on one condition: that we agree to focus on one specific subject. I've seen Hovind in action, and what he does is blitz through a lie a second, making it impossible to address one lie before he's finished throwing out a dozen more.

I'd even be willing to let him pick the subject, but I want the right to walk over and kick him in the balls every time he goes wandering off into other nonsense.

PZ Myers
Division of Science and Math
University of Minnesota, Morris



#28302: — 06/13  at  02:42 PM
To Mr. Pinoski,

You said: "All creationists are people coming from different backgrounds and levels of understanding;"

Yes, but all creationist share one common background and level understanding that makes them more than just a little prejudiced against the very concept of evolution. You all take the Bible as the literal truth. And that's fine. Your faith is what guides you and nothing that can be said will sway you.

But please at least admit that the reason why you believe in Creationism is based primarily off your faith and not try and cite "scientific" arguments for it. I've heard some of them, and they're not impressive. One of my favorites is that the Grand Canyon, instead of being formed over millions of years of erosion and rivers carving it, was actually formed in a 40-day period wherein there was great flooding and torrential downpours(Noah's Biblical flood).

I'm sorry, but if it rained for 40 days in a desert, a canyon of Grand proportions would not be formed. 40 days over solid and resistant minerals like limestone, of which a large portion of the Grand Canyon consists of, would do squat. I'm rather doubtful of even a constant blast of pressurized water could accomplish that, let alone rain.

And if there's so much evidence for an intelligent hand behind life, why couldn't all life on Earth been directed by, say, ALIENS?

One other thing: Your continued referral to evolution as a process of chance indicates your lack of understanding of the concept. It's not chance, it's trial and error.



#28303: — 06/13  at  02:44 PM
Even if he would agree to those terms, I seriously doubt he'd stick to them. Which means it could only end badly, with Hovind storming out after you repeatedly call him on his violations, or you kicking him in the balls. Um. Okay, you might not see that as a bad ending...

Regarding Mr. Pinkoski's comments here: Upon first reading his material, I thought this was the most extreme case of creationist ignorance and/or stupidity I had ever seen. I couldn't believe how it was possible to be so uninformed while devoting such effort into a nicely made, 52 page work.

Having seen his comments, I have to add dishonesty to the list. I cannot buy these claims that you were only kidding/exaggerating, Jim. Not when the claims in your text are so assertive and specific, and based on such fundamental misunderstandings of biology. Your symmetry claims were meant to imply bilateral features evolve independently, a flatly ignorant position. To claim it was exaggeration in the face of evidence to the contrary is weaselling.



's avatar #28317: Virge — 06/13  at  06:16 PM
Jim in #36 wrote:
BTW, there were a lot of other "observations" in my book that PZ avoided commenting on...

Didn't the title of this thread, "Pinkoski again", tell you anything, Jim? When looking at people with the blind audacity to publish "simplifications" for children on subjects of which they know naught, you've provided far too much material for just one blog entry.

See also:
June 3rd: Why is it called biblical literalism?
June 7th: Please, sweet lord, nooooooo!
June 8th: Pinkoski Part 1: Danged know-it-alls



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