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Tuesday, October 18, 2005

Plesiosaur poop!

Echoed on the Panda's Thumb

As Chris Clarke told me, "They were big ducks!" Two newly discovered elasmosaurid plesiosaur specimens from the Cretaceous contained a surprise that told us a little more about their diet.

What was found were specimens with their stomach contents preserved, and what they contained were gastroliths, or gizzard stones (no surprise there; plesiosaur remains have long been associated with gastroliths) and gastropods and crinoids. The gastroliths in this case were identified to have come from a site over 300km away, so the plesiosaurs were certainly doing some traveling over their lifetimes.

plesiosaur
(A) Close-up of a block containing stomach content from QMF33037. Inset: Interpretation of the block, showing gastroliths (yellow), molluscan shell (red), and parts of the elasmosaurid's ribs (blue). The field of view is 49.8 mm across.

Here's a new word for me, too: bromalite. You've probably heard of coprolites before, fossilized feces. A bromalite is basically fossilized colon contents, all the stuff that has worked its way through the gut but hasn't been excreted yet…so this poor beastie was killed before it could void its bowels one last time. Here's a picture of that terminal lump of intestinal blockage:

plesiosaur
End-on view of the QMF33037 bromalite; intact bivalve shell is visible to the lower right of the image. Scale bar, 5 cm.

This changes our view of their feeding habits a bit—they were ducking their heads down under water to scoop up benthic (bottom dwelling organisms) like clams and gulping them down. I've always had this image of long-necked plesiosaurs darting after fish, but they may have used those necks more to reach down and snaffle up less mobile prey.

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Reconstruction of a Queensland elasmosaurid feeding on the benthos.

McHenry CR, Cook AG, Wroe S (2005) Bottom-feeding plesiosaurs. Science 310(5745):75.


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Comments:
#44515: Rockstar — 10/18  at  03:12 PM
Prof. Myers:

Might be the first time I've ever wanted to use the words "poop" and "fascinating" at the same time...



#44523: — 10/18  at  03:42 PM
Maybe it ate a big fish that had eaten a clam.



#44528: — 10/18  at  03:48 PM
Maybe it ate a squid that ate a big fish that ate clam.



#44531: moonbatty — 10/18  at  04:00 PM
Sort of like a giraffe, but in the water?



#44533: — 10/18  at  04:03 PM
"...all the stuff that has worked its way through the gut but hasn't been excreted yet…so this poor beastie was killed before it could void its bowels one last time."


I find that sentence oddly poignant.



#44540: — 10/18  at  04:28 PM
Very very cool, I hope you have dinosaur topics more often. The image of them kind of grabing things off of the ocean floor is different, but actually I can see it more likely than darting fish. They, atleast today, don't look like stealthy swimmers. Can you tell by the teeth their likely diet? Or just going by whats inside their stomach.

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#44541: — 10/18  at  04:31 PM
Oddly swanlike, if swans had even longer necks. (And of course swans are dinosaurs too...)



#44543: — 10/18  at  04:35 PM
That's a fascinating insight. Were plesiosaurs more like swans or geese than sharks? Quite fun to think of flocks of them bobbing along with their heads held high...

R



#44547: — 10/18  at  05:14 PM
Wow. Bromalites rock.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)



#44553: — 10/18  at  05:48 PM
What is interesting is that swans are dinosaurs but plesiosaurs are not. They are classified as marine reptiles which are a kind of lepidosaur (modern tuataras, lizards and snakes) which is a kind of diapsid. Dinosaurs (including birds) are archosaurs which also include flying reptiles, crocodiles and possibly turtles as well (at least genetically). They are also diapsids but on the other side of the cladogram from lepidosaurs.



#44561: Chris — 10/18  at  06:19 PM
The genetics are pretty murky on account of the depth of the divergence. There is actually increasing support (based on morphology and things like chromosomes) for lumping the turtles back in with the diapsids, as a sister clade to the tuatara. That would change things a mite...



#44564: — 10/18  at  06:43 PM
Maybe it swallowed a squid that swallowed a fish that swallowed a clam....



#44567: coturnix — 10/18  at  06:55 PM
There was an old lady who swallowed a plesioasur,
swallowed a plesioasur, swallowed a plesioasur,
And after she swallowed a plesiosaur,
She was feeling full to the core.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If they were reverse giraffes - why? Was ocean-floor vegetation so tall and dense they could not just swim closer to the bottom to scoop clams?



#44577: Ronald Brak — 10/18  at  07:53 PM
Why should giraffes have long necks when they could jump? Leaving your body floating at the top of the water and just using your neck might save a lot of energy. (I wonder if they swallowed under water or was it a constant scoop, lift, swallow, dip activity?) I imagine they could always swim down to get stuff that was out of their reach.



#44579: — 10/18  at  08:15 PM
Let's remember that elasmosaurs were just one very long necked group of plesiosaurs. We know only that these two animals had eaten clams. There were all sorts of different neck lengths and head/body proportions with probably an equal number of lifestyles and preferred food items. This find is interesting, because the food items seemed rather incongruous compared to how elasmosaurs were portrayed before.



#44583: — 10/18  at  08:53 PM
so does a long neck generally indicate duck-like feeding? I can't imagine how you end up with a long-neck catcher of fast prey. The direct rout for a small prey-catcher to get incrementally better is to get incrementally faster, not grow an incrementally longer neck. I can't offhand think of any long-neck prey catchers where head speed compensates for body sloth, but most of my zoology education was from large print picture books.



Trackback: Duck's Dinner Tracked on: PhaWRONGula (72.9.234.70) at 2005 10 18 21:20:13
A plesiosaur, an ancient duck, With guts preserved--surprising luck To find much more than fossil bones-- Had gastroliths (that's gizzard stones)...



#44589: — 10/18  at  09:45 PM
D'oh, I totally did not see NatureSelectedMe's post.

Someone hit me with a squid.



#44598: — 10/18  at  10:52 PM
There was an old lady who swallowed a plesioasur

Or maybe...

This is the clam
that lay in the bromalite
that lay in the coprolite
that the plesiosaur shat

...along the lines of "This is the House that Jack built".



#44614: — 10/19  at  07:23 AM
I see someone already said the same thing as I was going to - viz not ducks but inverse giraffes! :-D



#44619: — 10/19  at  07:49 AM
They're not even really like giraffes. The evidence is that giraffes' necks didn't evolve for high-level browsing; they spend a great deal of time (females as much at 60%, according to some researchers) browsing on low bushes (abstract of a 1996 paper). Sexual selection (males use their necks in dominance displays) and better range of vision are alternate theories for why on earth they bother with the huge cost of that ridiculous neck...

Just a warning not to assume that plesiosaurs fed from the surface--although that is a cool illustration.



#44691: — 10/19  at  12:50 PM
Some of the long necked birds like egrets, use their necks to create a sling-shot effect to catch lizards and fish. I don't see another use, I know I've asked them personally...



#44751: — 10/19  at  05:52 PM
snakes are an example of long necked organisms that can move their necks fast even if their bodies are slow. Poison helps a lotl snaxalotl.



#44759: — 10/19  at  08:49 PM
Poison helps a lotl snaxalotl.

Are you Ok? You weren't playing with a snake right then?



#44778: — 10/20  at  04:35 AM
On the 'long reach predation' front, I am now reminded of the giant squid those Japanese researchers caught on tape earlier this year. Long grasping tentacles ~= long neck with a toothy head? We know giant squid are certainly aggressive predators (the shot they got of it 'facing' up at the camera with its arms unfurled was one I hope to never see in person).



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