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Wednesday, September 21, 2005

Singularly Silly Singularity

Kevin Drum picks at Kurzweil—a very good thing, I think—and expresses bafflement at this graph (another version is here, but it's no better):

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You see, Kurzweil is predicting that the accelerating pace of technological development is going to lead to a revolutionary event called the Singularity in our lifetimes. Drum has extended his graph (the pink areas) to show that, if it were correct, these changes ought to be occurring at a still faster rate now…something we aren't seeing. There's something wrong in this.

I peered at that graph myself, and the flaws go even deeper. It's bogus through and through.

Kurzweil cheats. The most obvious flaw is the way he lumps multiple events together as one to keep the distribution linear. For example, one "event" is "Genus Homo, Homo erectus, specialized stone tools", and another is "Printing, experimental method" and "Writing, wheel". If those were treated as separate events, they would have inserted major downward deflections in his chart a million years ago, and about 500 to a few thousand years ago.

The biology is fudged, too. Other "events" are "Class Mammalia", "Superfamily Hominoidea", "Family Hominidae", the species "Homo sapiens", and the subspecies "Homo sapiens sapiens". Think about it. If the formation of a species, let alone a subspecies, is a major event about a million years ago, why isn't each species back to the Cambrian awarded equivalent significance? Because it wouldn't fit his line, of course. As he goes back farther in time, he's using larger and larger artificial taxonomic distinctions to inflate the time between taxa.

It's also simplifying the complex. "Spoken language" is treated as a discrete event, one little dot with a specific point of origin, as if it just poofed into existence. However, it was almost certainly a long-drawn-out, gradual process stretched out over hundreds of thousands of years. Primates communicate with vocalizations; why not smear that "spoken language" point into a fuzzy blur stretching back another million years or so?

Here's another problem: cows. If you're going to use basic biology as milestones in the countdown to singularity, we can find similar taxonomic divisions in the cow lineage, so they were tracking along with us primates all through the first few billion years of this chart. Were they on course to the Singularity? Are they still? If not, why has the cow curve flattened out, and doesn't that suggest that the continued linearity of the human curve is not an ineluctable trend? This objection also applies to every single species on the planet—ants, monkeys, and banana plants all exhibit a "trend" if you look backwards on it (a phenomenon Gould called "retrospective coronation"), and you can even pretend it is an accelerating trend if you gin it up by using larger and larger taxonomic divisions the farther back you go.

Even the technologies are selectively presented. Don't the Oldowan, Acheulian, and Mousterian stone tool technologies represent major advances? Why isn't the Levallois flake in the chart as a major event, comparable to agriculture or the Industrial Revolution? Copper and iron smelting? How about hygiene or vaccination?

I'll tell you why. Because not only is the chart an artificial and perhaps even conscious attempt to fit the data to a predetermined conclusion, but what it actually represents is the proximity of the familiar. We are much more aware of innovations in our current time and environment, and the farther back we look, the blurrier the distinctions get. We may think it's a grand step forward to have these fancy cell phones that don't tie you to a cord coming from the wall, but there was also a time when people thought it was radical to be using this new bow & arrow thingie, instead of the good ol' atlatl. We just lump that prior event into a "flinging pointy things" category and don't think much of it. When Kurzweil reifies biases that way, he gets garbage, like this graph, out.

Now I do think that human culture has allowed and encouraged greater rates of change than are possible without active, intelligent engagement—but this techno-mystical crap is just kookery, plain and simple, and the rationale is disgracefully bad. One thing I will say for Kurzweil, though, is that he seems to be a first-rate bullshit artist.

I don't think he'll be sending me a copy of his book to review.


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Comments:
#40856: — 09/21  at  10:32 AM
Nice takedown. This stuff has always irked me but I've never been able to really pin down why.

And a more basic problem is that true AI has been "just a few years off" ever since the computer was invented. And hell we still can't even write good speech recognition software.

Computers, as we currently build them, just aren't very good at doing biological-brain-like things. That's not to say that they never will be, but thinking that raw processing speed is the only thing between us and fleets of C-3POs seems to ignore a lot of what the history of AI has already taught us.



's avatar #40859: PZ Myers — 09/21  at  10:46 AM
The whole phenomenon is always going to be a few years off. It's not a reflection of real change, but our perception of change, and that's always going to emphasize recency.

PZ Myers
Division of Science and Math
University of Minnesota, Morris



#40860: — 09/21  at  10:51 AM
Nailed it. Of course, given the structure of the graph, "events we know about" or almost any subset thereof would fall on a similar line.

The more interesting substantive question is whether technological change is in fact accelerating. I would argue that it has not -- that by any reasonable standard there were more major innovations in each of the two or three half-centuries before 1950-2000.



#40863: Alon Levy — 09/21  at  11:03 AM
Since the graph is logarithmic, translated into a linear scale it would simply be a straight line stopping at the present. This is like the paradox of Achilles and the Tortoise; graphs like this give the impression that Achilles will never overtake the Tortoise, or in this case that when he does we'll have some sort of singularity.



#40864: — 09/21  at  11:11 AM
Charlatans always try to use graphs and mathematics to prove preconceived notions.
Usually to see cheap books to the uninitiated.
Number crunching has been used to prove a myriad of stupidities,such as aliens building the pyramids, the location of Atlantis, or proof of ID's god creating mankind.
Thank the deities above and below real people of knowledge are passing this crap through the bullshit filter....



#40865: Steinn Sigurdsson — 09/21  at  11:14 AM
To be fair, the graph is supposed to be plotted not from present time, but from the time of the singularity which is by hypothesis some time in the future. So current rate of progress is not few per week, but one per few years if you assume that the "singularity" is ~ 20 years in the future.

Arguably the current rate of major "events" is one per few years, depending on what we decide in retrospect was a major event. Extrapolating locally exponential trends into the future remains as hazardous as always.

So Drum misunderstood that part of the graph.

Rapture for geeks is fun, as long as people restrain themselves. And Vinge did it first and better.



#40866: coturnix — 09/21  at  11:19 AM
Thank you! Now I have a ready answer to all the crap: "We have a problem: cows!"



#40867: QrazyQat — 09/21  at  11:23 AM
Just like Ley Lines -- you find two events, draw a line between them, then look for other things near the line. Fudge dates (and/or places if used) as required to move them over to the line, or alternatively, just lie about the date and/or place and move it on over. There was a school shooting graphic a year or so ago making a hexagram (they were churchy types looking for a pentagram, but apparently a hexagram is close enough for Satan (lazy bum, that Satan).



#40869: QrazyQat — 09/21  at  11:31 AM
BTW, when people talk about the amazing advances we see now, I wonder how about the seed drill? Introduced to Europe from China (or possibly independently discovered by Jethro Tull -- I find that harder to believe) it gave you, instantly, a huge increase in yield because you had to use a much smaller fraction of your seed for the next year's crop. Imagine a techological advance that instantly gives you a 25-50% increase in yields with the same seeds and crops -- is that more or less big than, say, the telephone?



's avatar #40870: Hank Fox — 09/21  at  11:38 AM
Heh. As a former cowboy working on ranches in the vicinity of a major highway, I have actually SEEN the cow curve flattened out. On two separate occasions.



#40871: Adam Ierymenko — 09/21  at  11:44 AM
When I first heard the idea of the singularity, it was immediately apparent to me that this was a secularized version of the rapture.

Eschatology really bugs me, as it is invariably used as an excuse to not be concerned about the future or not to worry about problems. It also tends to "fellow travel" along with other forms of lunacy that are more harmful.

It also trivializes and cartoonifies the nature of progress. Real progress is possible, but it requires work, intelligence, and perseverence. This kind of eschatological ideology replaces all those virtues with "magic happens here" and thus makes real progress less likely by diverting attention away from the *difficulty* of achieving it.

I think that the concept of the eschaton is one of the central fallacies of western thought.



#40872: Michael Bérubé — 09/21  at  11:48 AM
I take exception to your suggestion that the cow curve has flattened out." What you puny humans call "mad" cows are really the Next Stage of Bovine Intelligence, as I argue in my forthcoming book, La Vache Qui Rit, and there is really no question that the number of "mad" (i.e., telepathic) cows has been increasingly logarithmically over the past seven years.



#40873: — 09/21  at  11:49 AM
Just like Ley Lines -- you find two events, draw a line between them, then look for other things near the line


I'm happy to see that I wasn't the only one who thought of lay lines when I saw the graph.



#40874: Phila — 09/21  at  11:49 AM
Ever since I heard Kurzweil blithering on some NPR program in support of his book about "spiritual machines," I've detested him more than tongue can tell. This particular smackdown made my day.



#40875: Adam Ierymenko — 09/21  at  11:59 AM
Oh... another reason that I dislike Kurzweil.

I have a very strong interest in AI and artificial life (as you can see by clicking on my name), and I can't stand how the field is so overhyped (and so badly hyped).

The kind of pop tripe that Kurzweil writes does terrible damage to the field in terms of distracting people from the real rational ideas that are around, and his "C3PO is just around the corner!" hype distracts people from the real incremental progress being made.

He also <shudder> attracts the attention of <shudder> the New Age movement. The New Age (pronounced 'newage', rhymes with 'sewage') has an absolutely astounding ability to completely destroy the value of any idea that comes into it's intellectual orbit. For example, they've gotten their filthy hands on 'emergence' and have nearly annhilated this fascinating concept by turning it into twinky magic pixie dust in the minds of the uninitiated.

Actually, thinking about this has motivated me...

I'm going to write a blog series soon on what emergence actually is, and I'll probably submit it to the Tangled Bank. We've all got to do our part to defend science not only from Christian mystics but also from being drowned in newage.



#40877: Jeremy Osner — 09/21  at  12:09 PM
What you refer to as "inflating taxa" is similar to what Dawkins did in his recent "Ancestor's Tale". Of course, he admitted up front that it was done only as a rhetorical device and reflected the book's theme of human descent, and was ot to be taken as implying a scientifically useful status to this type of inflation.



's avatar #40878: Ken Cope — 09/21  at  12:22 PM
Speaking of Achilles and the Tortoise, Douglas Hoffstadter hosted a seminar at Stanford on April Fools Day MM, assembling a panel featuring Kurzweil and Hans Moravec and others (notably Sun's Bill Joy, certain that Kurzweil's Singularity was going to smother us in nano-technological gray goo).

In Hofstadter's introduction, he sounded similarly dubious about Kurzweil's timeline. I counted nearly thirty instances of the phrase "paradigm shift" in Kurzweil's presentation.

I think Kurzweil's baffle-graphing obscures his most interesting idea, which is that just as one technology reaches its limits, a successor displaces it so that there is no plateau. He knows enough about audio engineering to use wax cylinders to CDs as a solid example, and shows that Moore's Law as it applies to the limits of a flat chip will keep advances in processor power accelerating once CPUs are displaced by their successor.

So, if there are no limitations to what can be achieved with hardware, where is the similar advancement in software development? I can see graphics processors assuming a larger role in computing, as graphics programmers archive their code in chips, augmenting software running on generic processors. In what circumstances does a bottom-up process outpace top-down design?

Hofstadter: Our brains got designed by evolution, which is just basically just tooth and claw, fight for survival. Why couldn't that happen again within the medium of the silicon or other media, whatever it might be? The idea is we wouldn't need us cognitive scientists around to figure out the principals by which minds and brains work, it will just evolve by itself.

It's just that the more we learn about the functioning of the brain, the more complicated we find that it is, and the challenge of emulating it in another substrate becomes yet another one of those vertical walls, which is among the reasons Hofstadter is figuring if it's a matter of when, not if, it'll be a lot farther off than Kurzweil has it.

Marvin Minsky tells students they should lay off building robots and build computer simulations instead, yet there is surprising behavior evinced by surprisingly simple machines.

I suppose I'd recognize a Singularity if I lived through it, and I'd hate to just miss it, but I'm not holding my transhumanist breath waiting for my robot overlords.

Another writer whose take on Kurzweil I'd enjoy reading is James "Connections" Burke.



#40879: Sean D. Hurley — 09/21  at  12:31 PM
The chart proves that you must bow down to the altar of progress: the notion that our lives will be improved, that the existential weight will be lifted from our shoulders if we only put our shoulders to the grinding machine of business, technology, and, in some cases, the American way...

While it is one thing to wax romantic about the future, to believe that it is possible for mankind to live in peace in a technological paradise (be it a World After Tomorrow kind or not), it is far more dubious to worship it.



#40880: — 09/21  at  12:35 PM
Oh, Damn! Now what do I do while I'm waiting for my nanorobot overlords?

This is really Dow 40,000 stuff, and I'm surprised it took this long for non-skiffee types to debunk.



#40881: — 09/21  at  12:41 PM
I've already seen chapter 1 of the book on ImmInst.org's forums:
http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=13&t=7814&s=

So the events come from a summary of lists done by Modis, where Modis uses his "milestones" datapoints to conclude that we're right at the peak of seeing new technological changes.

All the lists are shown separately in Modis's paper:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tmodis/TedWEB.htm

Modis predicts that we'll see less technological change from now on- that we're on an overall tech logistical type S curve- compared to Kurzweil predicting that its all speeding up. New Scientist compares both of these guys: http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/dn7616

Logistic curves are quite useful for *individual* technology adoption rates: for example, given the starting date and inflection point for a region's adoption of cell phones, you can predict where the ceiling is fairly well (reference: a bunch of papers using s-curves, mostly Gompertz and Logistic, for technology adoption). That this curve would apply to all technology is a very different type of argument.



#40882: — 09/21  at  12:50 PM
Since the 1950s the "AI" bullshitters have been promising that smarter-than-human computers are just around the corner (reminds me of the old joke that fusion power is always ten years away.) So far the real workers in the field (not the same people as the bullshitters) have gotten about as far as making the functional equivalent of a fly brain, with no sign that anyone knows how to take even the first step in the direction of duplicating any of the unique attributes of the human mind. And it's clear that raw computing power alone is not the bottleneck, it's lack of sufficient understanding of first principles. My bet is that decades of work in cognitive science remain to be done before any realistic AI project worthy of the name can even get started.



#40883: — 09/21  at  12:57 PM
Adam,

The term 'the rapture of the nerds' for the singlarity was coined by Ken McLeod a couple of years back, and then used as a story title by Cory Doctorow and Charlie Stross. Popular Science interviewed them in "Is Science Fiction about to go blind," which is a nice article. http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/e9fb0b4511b84010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html

However, I'd say one difference alone makes the two types of 'raptures' incompatible.

A religious rapture is all about an uncontrollable external force taking over the earth, helping the good people, and squishing evildoers like bugs (read the last chapters of radical cleric Lahaye's Glorious Appearing: those guys are *gleeful* at how the wicked will get smushed). The singularity-type argument is that humans are going to make better technology and use that tech to solve our problems ourselves.



#40885: — 09/21  at  01:04 PM
I realize that this is smearing by association, but as I recall, Kurzweil and George Gilder form a sort of mutual admiration society.



#40899: — 09/21  at  01:26 PM

The kind of pop tripe that Kurzweil writes does terrible damage to the field


It could be worse. He could be Kevin Warwick.


Furthermore, Vinge has pointed out that if the Singularity does happen, it'll be less like a singularity than like an event horizon, in that we wouldn't notice when we fell through it. It's just that future societies would not be comprehensible by members of earlier societies without pretty much completely reeducating the member of the earlier society. In that sense, we've been through several singularities already.

(Note also Charlie Stross's latest work of gonzo SF, Accelerando, which makes the point pretty forcibly that even if the singularity does occur, nobody ever said it had to be nice. This is something else that Kurzweil and Yudkowsky and others seem to forget when it suits them, which is odd, because they also use it in their arguments at other times. They're frighteningly smart people, but sometimes this feels like self-delusion more than anything else. The smarter you are, the more elaborate the castles you can build in the sky... supported by almost nothing at all but your own aspirations.)

I think there is something to Vinge's idea, in that if we manage to boost human intelligence or come up with something smarter than human, there will be major changes to society: but I can't see how we can predict an exponential runaway and beyond-modelling superintelligence from that. We don't know that transcendently intelligent entities are possible. They might not be (perhaps some of the necessary algorithms are O(2^n), for instance). Vinge has acknowledged this from the start. Kurzweil and his bunch... haven't.

Vinge turned the Singularity into an excellent SF/detective story. Kurzweil's trying to turn it into a religion with a self-fulfilling prophecy.

And that's more than a little loopy.



#40903: — 09/21  at  01:31 PM
For some reason, The Singularity smells (to me) of dogmatism...

Intelligent Design : Evolution

Singularity : The Rapture?

Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

-Jerry Garcia



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