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Monday, August 09, 2004

The Clinton/Stewart Show

The Clinton interview on the Daily Show was...alright. Not a lot of fire, and Clinton seemed a bit disengaged.

The show started with a couple of good bits. Jon Stewart ripped into the phony Swift Boat Veterans ad, pointing out the blatant dishonesty in these guys claiming to have been "with" John Kerry. Colbert mocked the diverse views of the Democratic party by pulling together a group of representatives and pitting them against one another.

Clinton's message was simple: he commented on the Swift Boat Veterans crap and said that Bush did exactly the same kind of smear against McCain and Cleland, and thinks McCain should have bashed back. The Republicans keep throwing slime because it is effective, and it's only going to end when it stops working; he also repeated several times that what needs to be done if for candidates to fight back, and "when someone comes after you, you have to come back at them". He's not advocating negative ads, though, but strong, cogent responses. His best line of the evening, I thought, was that "when you're a democrat, you win when people think."

I'd give the interview 2 stars out of 5. Nothing exciting, not a lot of depth, but straightforward common sense.


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Comments:
#5170: — 08/11  at  12:58 PM
We'll know what's up in a few days. If the Dem. response is to try to smear and assault the characters of these swiftboat vets, we can deduce that the service and medical records Kerry has kept locked would be damaging to him. If on the other hand, Kerry opens his records--service and medical--to fight back, we can all see what's there and make up our own minds objectively.

If the man's a real war hero, he should not be smeared. If he's not a war hero, he deserves to be censored for pretending to be. Kerry is the one to bring a 30 year old war into the campaign. His smears against Bush did not hold water and his 4 months as a war participant don't hold water against Bush's 4 years as a war President. Kerry needs to step up to the plate and defend his own record rather than sling mud as he's done in the past.



#5177: Scott Spiegelberg — 08/11  at  08:57 PM
Kerry has released all of his military records. He has not released all of his medical records, but that isn't the point, is it? Purple Hearts are awarded for injuries sustained during fighting, regardless of the type of injury. A doctor signed off on each of those injuries, as is shown in the fully released military records.

Where are Bush's fully released military records, the ones he promised on Meet the Press? Should we assume that his locked up records would be damaging to him?

What I really want to say is, the Daily Show makes me want to have cable TV at home. But that's not going to happen, sigh.



#5191: — 08/12  at  01:51 PM
You happen to be wrong about Kerry's records. They are held by the Department of Defense and cannot be released without the approval of Mr. Kerry. He has not given his permission. Mr. Bush, on the other hand, did. Do you not remember the dental records? Logically, if the records had been released, the major news outlets could simply quote them in Kerry's defense. Furthermore, if such records were public knowledge, this book and these accusations would go nowhere.
The doctor who took care of Mr. Kerry's schrapnel wound (a sliver of metal in a scratch so superficial he picked it out with tweezers like a splinter) laughed at him and sent him away. Kerry went around him. This doctor and the chain of command over Kerry in Viet Nam have all come out against him. You can't keep believing all this Democrat mythology.



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