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Saturday, December 17, 2005

The deplorable Hwang Woo-Suk

I've been following the Hwang Woo-Suk spectacle with fascinated disgust. I wrote about their papers a few times way back when, and I was both excited by the possibilities and upset at the way the US had abandoned all leadership in this field. Now it's all falling apart because one of the principal authors seems to have faked substantial amounts of the data, calling the whole project (and all of the affiliated investigators) into question.

It's not entirely surprising. South Korea was throwing lots of money into this research; stem cells have awesome potential, and this was clearly viewed as a source of future biomedical breakthroughs and international prestige. Big buckets of money and a government that wanted certain highly desirable results is a recipe for exploitation, and they seem to have found the man to take advantage of it all.

But I don't need to say much, since bioethics.net has an excellent summary. Here's the long-term worry:

The key questions in the public discussion of the Korean matter seem likely to involve a billion versions of: "Will ethical lapses in this lab damage stem cell research elsewhere?"

Answer: yup. And no amount of late-in-the-day standards creation will change that. People are going to ask whether the mechanisms whereby stem cell money is doled out have to be made much more rigorous. And yet again, the U.S. government will be zero help, since our rule for how to fund stem cell research is based on the altogether stupid idea that some tiny collection of embryonic stem cells in Wisconsin are ok in terms of ethics and money, but anything made after August 9, 2001 is evil and not to be funded.

The flaws run both ways. It is a bad idea to have a research program dedicated to getting a specific end result that accommodates an ideological end. In South Korea, we have science running pell-mell for lucrative and sensational advances in human stem cell research; in the US, we have ideologues running in the opposite direction, convinced that human stem cell research is evil. We have a gap in the middle where we should have a majority of the work directed at simply figuring out what's going on in a small slice of biological reality.

The case of Hwang Woo-Suk may ultimately be helpful if the message taken is that cheating at the science will be caught out, and the culprits will see their respect and reputation demolished. It's a disaster if it is interpreted to mean that their must be greater security and less openness to prevent people from being caught.

I mostly agree with bioethics.net:

There are those who hold that the key issues here involve the money, lack of regulation, conflicts of interest, and misconceptions held by donors, government and the people of Korea about what this research could do - misconceptions that led to giving one man too much lattitude. And there are those who believe that the evils of detroying embryos could only lead to such an outcome, a 'greater evil'. We've made our argument - whatever the cause and whatever the sin there is only one way for the problem to be fixed and that is US funding of stem cell research with concomitant ethical standards the world is forced to either meet or forgo the US market for its drugs and devices.

I'd like to see the US promote a rational strategy for stem cell research (although I doubt that that is possible with the current administration), but I don't think it is the only solution. There is the EU, after all. The US could spiral off into the outer darkness, and there still are other countries that could take the lead in principled research. I admit that abandoning the US to medieval backwardness isn't exactly a desirable solution, but hey, if it's what the majority wills…


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Comments:
#53944: — 12/17  at  10:18 AM
When it sounds too good to be true, it's usually cold fusion.



#53947: — 12/17  at  10:40 AM
Do embryonic stem cells have host rejection issues?



's avatar #53948: PZ Myers — 12/17  at  10:55 AM
If the source is not the host, yes. The exciting thing about some of that research, though, is that they were transplanting host nuclei into ova, and purportedly generating stem cells that were genetically identical to the host. Those cells would not have rejection issues.

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#53949: logopetria — 12/17  at  11:10 AM
You seem to have the end of a sentence missing:

"in the US, we have ideologues running in the opposite direction, convinced that human stem cell research."

... is the work of the Devil?



#53953: Prof. Bleen — 12/17  at  11:37 AM
I apologize for nitpicking, but that should be "principal authors." Principle is always a noun. I got into this discussion with a couple of colleagues, Ph. D. geneticists. When I corrected them on the spelling of "principal investigator" they objected that "a lot of people spell it 'principle.'" I replied that a lot of people spell it wrong, too, and I was reminded of the third Great Premise of Idiot America: that anything is true if enough people believe it. Of course, consensus is a driving force in the evolution of language, so my colleagues can't quite be faulted for faith-based reasoning.



#53978: Alon Levy — 12/17  at  01:59 PM
I don't think the EU will come to the rescue. For the last 10 years, the climate in sub-Scandinavian continental Europe has been one of deregulation and tax-cutting; this means less funding to scientific research, among other things.



#53996: — 12/17  at  07:14 PM
Or as Dr. Gerald Weissmann of Columbia and Bellevue said in his essay about abortion (in 'Darwin's Audubon'), (quoting from memory): 'I have no idea when life begins, but I am certain when it ends.'

So then -- full speed ahead!

This seems to be a failure of ethical or perhaps moral perspective every bit as blatant as Hwang's.

Maybe, you know, people in that business ought to sit down and put on an icepack and think about it for a while, rather than rushing headlong they know not where.

I am also minded of the original confusion (still unsettled in some minds, though not in mine) about what limits, if any, should have been imposed on recombinent DNA research (in non-human species, so abortion and George Bush, then a fighter pilot, cannot be blamed). In Watson's 'DNA: A Documentary History' there is the salutary tale of a conference at (as I recall) Asilomar in which someone noted that, under the rules adopted in haste, copulation between a husband and wife fell under the definition of a Class II (moderately dangerous) recombination.

A pox on all their houses.



#54021: — 12/18  at  12:03 AM
If and when real cures start appearing based on stem cell research, I wonder how many of these "pro-life" fanatics will refused treatment rather than reap the benefits.

Not many, I'd wager.



#54040: — 12/18  at  11:34 AM
Interesting question. Let me ask you the same, only different.

Last week here, in the thread on leeches, there was a lot of talk about hepatitis vaccine.

All leftists are agreed, are they not, that the research that led to the vaccine was immoral and unethical?

Yet, I don't see any of the industrial strength moralists here saying, well, can't accept the vaccine, it was tested on mongoloid idiots who could not have given informed consent.



#54068: — 12/18  at  02:17 PM
> There is the EU, after all.

Unfortunately, some political forces clamoring for "regulation" of research on both sides of the pond don't care at all about making stuff more effective, safe and truthful. For those who can't tell the difference between persons and insentient organisms, regulation of embryonic stem cell research can only mean to regulate it out of existence. This got me riled up from the very start of the clone-cell wars: politicians deign to determine that my life is worth no more than that of an embryo having as much 'humanity' about it as a shed hair follicle. The rights of actual people are denied as a 'favor' to an embryo a priori incapable of appreciating a favor, or anything else in the way of thought and perception. Brainless, LITERALLY brainless!

And while the accompanying legislation seems heavily religiously motivated in the U.S., it's a bit more secular-rooted in the EU's mainstays, France and Germany, where a fuzzy cryptoluddite-postmodernist rejection of science often plays a role in research bans. Being from there, I'm sorry to say that vocal "cultural elites" around here mostly sneer at the notion that science can and should be a tool of individual freedom and objective knowledge. Old Europe has low hopes for human ingenuity, at a time when our fast-aging population depends on technical and medical innovation more than ever.

I don't want to condemn Dr. Hwang before he's had an opportunity to refute the accusations, but a serious high-profile fake taking this long to be exposed would also highlight the damage to free inquiry already done elsewhere. A fabrication could have been discovered much much earlier, had not prohibition of nuclear transfer research and import bans on resultant cell lines barred many scientists from scrutinizing Hwang's (forged?) results, including in Europe. A German cell biologist who dared a closer look at those cloned stem cells would be rewarded with prison time - even if no taxpayer funds were involved. Entire swaths of the scientic community are being chained and stymied by their governments and it shows in a weakened peer-to-peer vetting network.



#54081: — 12/18  at  04:03 PM
One reason to keep the lead in stem cell research in the U.S. is that, despite periodic spasms of ethical lapseness [how's that for a new word?], U.S. researchers have in the past and, we may hope, will in the future model ethical behaviors in research.

But then, that would be the U.S. trying to be Ronald Reagan's "shining city on a hill," and that's dead in the Bush era.



#54198: Fearless Leader — 12/19  at  12:05 PM
There is a silver lining in having someone like Hwang to beat up these days. He can become the poster child for just how merciless is the scientific method.

We can point to him and say we eat our own young, too, everytime the fundies cry out, "Look at how those scientists are being mean to us and are not being fair!!"

I mean, Hwang, looks like he's on the fast track to the professional equivalent of a firing squad....and his only crime was that he didn't play by the rules of science.



#54234: — 12/19  at  01:45 PM
Harry Eagar said:
Yet, I don't see any of the industrial strength moralists here saying, well, can't accept the vaccine, it was tested on mongoloid idiots who could not have given informed consent.

The ethics of how data is acquired doesn't necessarily have an effect on the significance of that data. In other words: Biomedical ethics gives us guidelines on how to obtain data in ways that are most humane, but says nothing about how to interpret the significance of that data whether obtained humanely or not.



#54249: — 12/19  at  02:31 PM
The significance of the data is not in dispute. The hepatitis vaccine works.

The question is whether it is acceptable to make use of it.

If biomedical ethics cannot answer that question, then it is, at best, incomplete; and, in practice, as seen here, positively harmful, since it seems to give people cover to do evil to benefit themselves.

Note: the evil in this case is self-defined. I am not saying that testing experimental hepatitis vaccine on idiots is immoral. It's the biomedical ethics community that says so.

But you misunderstood the post. The point is not whether it is acceptable to use hepatitis vaccine. (I have another example to illustrate this point, which I like even better, which is that for vegans, insulin, given the immorality [for them]of the Minkowski experiment must be a forbidden treatment. How many vegan diabetics choose to starve to death for their principles?)

The point was that tacitus was -- without any evidence whatever -- disparaging 'fanatics' for behavior that (he predicts) will be exactly the same as the behavior of all (or virtually all) the leftists posting on this site.

I just love tu quoque arguments, not least because my victims almost never understand what they've done to themselves.



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#54954: — 12/23  at  05:07 AM
Hwang's university just issued a report removing any doubt he is a fraud, and he resigned from his research position.

Let's hope the World Stem Cell Hub and Hwang's former co-workers (those who weren't involved with the fakings) will quickly reorganize to salvage and move forward the valid parts of his work.



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