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Sunday, June 26, 2005

Uh-oh. Two wild-eyed liberals in withdrawal…at the same time

Chris Clarke recounts the history of his addictions, and his breaking thereof. He's gone through tobacco, alcohol, and now, caffeine. I've never been a victim of the first two, but the latter—hoo boy.

I have never ever smoked. A cigarette has never touched these sweet and supple lips. I've also never tried marijuana, not because I have anything against mild recreational drugs, but solely because the thought of inhaling the fumes from flaming paper-wrapped dried weeds is thoroughly repulsive.

I've always drunk in moderation—a father who struggled to get off the bottle and a grandfather who didn't bother cured me of any temptations. I will have a beer or two in social situations, a small glass of wine now and then, but I never drink for the buzz, and if I'm feeling any effect, I stop drinking, immediately.

But since college I have been a black hole for coffee. I'm a two pot a day man, man. And I don't make it weak, either—I like it velvet black and thick enough to be mistaken for tar. No sugar, no milk, just pure plant alkaloids and water. Mmmmmmm.

In a strange coincidence, though, I took a hard look at my intake last week and decided that anything I was taking to that much excess was probably a very bad idea. So last Saturday I beat Clarke to the punch and I drank my last cup of coffee. I also axed the Coca-Cola (oooh, I'm bad—I'd start the day with coffee, and then around mid-afternoon switch to coke. I'm a caffeine junkie, yes I am.)

When I feel the craving now, I lurch into the kitchen and fix myself a great big glass of ice water. It helps to have that liquid to take the place of the physical correlates of the habit. I've been gulping water down in torrents this week, but strangely enough, haven't noticed much of a change in my excretory patterns. I think the increase in volume has been compensated for by the absence of heavy doses of a diuretic; I'm a little worried that with inflow exceeding outflow, I'm going to develop the consistency of a great bloated jellyfish.

I've cut out caffeine cold turkey, which everyone tells me is just awful with withdrawal headaches, but so far, it hasn't been a problem at all, but then, when I've been off coffee for a week at a time before it hasn't been a problem, either. No headaches, no twitchiness, no lethargy, no changes in my sleeping patterns. I may have a weird caffeine metabolism, since I've always found that coffee steadies me—back when I was doing single cell surgeries on insect embryos, I had to have at least two cups before my hands were steady enough for the work. The absence of withdrawal symptoms makes me wonder if I have to wait for all of the drug to leech out of my super-saturated tissues before I suffer from those problems…in which case, given the quantity I've got in me, I expect 'round about December I'll piss out the last of it, fall asleep, my heart rate will slow to one beat an hour, and the top of my head will blow off.


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Comments:
#29915: Martin Wagner — 06/26  at  09:49 PM
I tend to get a nasty headache when I go off caffeine for a couple of days, which I've had to on occasion. I don't seem to drink as much of the stuff as you do, but the interesting thing is, I've never noticed that caffeine has in me this magic, wired-to-the-wall wakening effect. Perhaps because I've been a soda drinker since childhood, my body's acclimated to it in many ways. I could pound down a whole 12-pack of Dr Pepper and go right to sleep with no problem. But when I go off the stuff, the ol' cranium does start to throb.



's avatar #29917: Chris Clarke — 06/26  at  10:10 PM
I drink enough coffee that the caffeine in soda has no effect on me at all.

So, at AA they sit around fighting the urge to drink alcohol and chatting over endless cups of coffee. Should I fly to Morris and pick up a keg?

"I do not think we should antagonize the religious when it is not warranted, though I think we should be willing to do so whenever it is.”
-- Glen Davidson



#29918: — 06/26  at  10:30 PM
I drink a lot of coffee too, I can drink right up until I go to bed and still sleep. However when I try to quit I DO get a headache... :-( Lucky you I guess. I don't really see the problem with drinking caffiene. Love your blog! Nothing like a good dose of science now and then to keep the ol' brain chugging along.



#29919: — 06/26  at  10:31 PM
I've always thought that water was the perfect substitute for the more harmful habitually consumed substances, since it satisfies many of the ritualistic mechanical urges that make substance abuse so persistent. Plus water is good for you. And let's face it, if you're like me, you probably don't get too much of a buzz off of coffee after that first cup in the morning anyway, so what's the point of imbibing mass quantities of inert, bitter tar (especially when it's been sitting on your desk cooling off and accumulating cigarette butts while you got distracted doing something else).

I think some people are just more susceptible to physical addiction than others, and this might explain why some people get the withdrawal headaches and others don't. I've never gotten headaches despite huge variation in caffeine intake, ranging from multiple pots per day to whole weeks without any. I also smoked cigarettes in high school for a while, and then one day I realized it was disgusting, so I just stopped one day with nary an urge to light up ever again.



#29920: Joseph ODonnell — 06/26  at  10:35 PM
I prefer V myself, which as well as having high doses of caffine has all sorts of other crap including taurine, glucoronolactone and more.

What could be better? :D



#29921: — 06/26  at  10:47 PM
Dude, with your two pots a day you're waaay over the limit. Good for you, go cold turkey.

You've gotten habituated, coffee doesn't have the effect it once had.

After you're off the java for a couple of weeks, you can start over with just a cup a day, then slowly crank up the dose as the habituation progresses.



#29923: — 06/26  at  11:57 PM
Naked Coffee Klatsch
-pretty strong stuff from PZ Myers



#29924: coturnix — 06/26  at  11:59 PM
I was never a drinker. Ocasional home-brew, a glass of good wine or a small shot of home-made slivovitz from the old country... I often go for several weeks between instances of consuming any alcohol. And I also immediately stop as soon as I develop a buzz.

I am notorious cocacolic, though. I rarely have coffee - if it is not Turkish, it's not worth tasting. I also always had to drink a lot of Coke before doing surgeries to steady my hands and to be able to focus. I get headaches if my daily consuption gets too low.

On the other hand I HATE being a smoker. And I hate quitting, too. That is the hardest. I did once - for two years. During those two years I was not able to think straight. My mind would wander from one topic to another - not a good way to think through one's experiments!



's avatar #29925: Virge — 06/27  at  12:27 AM
Reading your second and third paragraphs made me wonder if this blog entry was a mirror. Fortunately, the fourth paragraph showed a significant difference. You have your two pots a day of black coffee. Mine are strong but white and sweet, although I've wound back the sugar to a single teaspoon.

You're right. That level of caffeine intake is excessive. I should stop or at least cut back. I should...



#29926: — 06/27  at  12:45 AM
I have just been busy with projects at University, so my coffee intake is way to high, and I am cutting back. I'm not stopping completely though, as I love the taste of coffee.

And like many others here, I get headaches when I cut back.

Soda is another big addiction, and that one I am stopping completely.



#29927: Philip Brooks — 06/27  at  01:08 AM
I'm the same way with alcohol. I've been fortunate enough to have never had any bad experiences with alcoholics. I just don't find being drinking too much a pleasant experience.



#29929: — 06/27  at  01:23 AM
I quit smoking today. I think I'm going to die.
(My magic word is support! How cool is that.)



#29930: coturnix — 06/27  at  01:32 AM
BTW, I never touched any other drugs, not even pot. I realized how quickly I got hooked on nicotine and decided it was best never to even try anything harder.



#29932: Socar — 06/27  at  02:31 AM
Like you, I used to suck down the caffeine like it was going out of style. I was like a...a big ol' caffeine-slurping hose. Or one of those worms that sucks in earth as it digs its burrows. Except I was swimming through an ocean of Coca-Cola, and--

--well, I kicked the habit. It was agony, but you see me sitting before you caffeine-free today.

Except, now, I'm addicted to sugar. Shouldn't have substituted Sprite for Coke.



#29933: Alon Levy — 06/27  at  02:32 AM
You can't resist coffee. You want coffee. You miss the sweet taste of coffee in your mouth. You can't get off coffee.

It's a good thing you've never smoked, though. That way you don't load your kids with carcinogenic fumes the way my dad does.



#29935: Abiola Lapite — 06/27  at  03:35 AM
I may have a weird caffeine metabolism, since I've always found that coffee steadies me
Now that is weird, as I've always been the opposite. I'm restless enough as it is (habitual finger-tapper here) without coffee making me all agitated.



#29940: — 06/27  at  04:26 AM
I'm a one-mug-a-day, headache-if-I-stop coffee drinker. Used to drink a pot of espresso a day, but have now found my happy medium for the drug of choice of the whole world.

coturnix- nicotine is the hard stuff, not tetrahydrocannabinol. Sure, pot can mess you up, but it's not physically addicting, the way tobacco and caffeine are. And rumors to the contrary, it doesn't make you stoopid.



's avatar #29941: — 06/27  at  04:39 AM
After stopping coffee and smoking, I started to put on weight. Just after giving up alcohol it was discovered that it is the most effective circulatory drug, so I drink 50 cc p.d. It has cognitive benefits, too.

Quod natura non sunt turpia



#29942: Alon Levy — 06/27  at  04:50 AM
People always put on weight when they quit smoking, or so I hear.



#29947: shana — 06/27  at  05:52 AM
In addition to being a stimulant (because it's a stimulant?), nicotine's an appetite suppressant. So long as you don't increase your food intake when you quit (which is also tempting for the oral fixation side of things), you shouldn't gain weight.

zilch, I'm with you on the one mug a day, but I never get headaches if I stop. I went off caffeine for 2-3 years in college, had coffee before a geology final and I couldn't read my own handwriting! Coke, however, never seems to affect me, though I have noticed lately that caffeine makes my heart all wanky :(

Good luck, PZ!



#29950: — 06/27  at  06:47 AM
I used to be real hardcore for my coffee too, to the point that I couldn't sleep without it. Be warned - once you've been off it for a few months to a year, you will suddenly find out just how powerful it is if you have a cup. I can just about manage one cup of coffee now without my nervous system totally falling out on the floor. Two cups gets me higher than meth, with a nastier comedown - and that's not rhetorical. I have extensive experience of various illegal drugs, and caffeine is as potent as just about any of 'em.



#29953: — 06/27  at  07:39 AM
I'll certainly sleep easier at night, knowing your excretory patterns haven't changed. I do think it's a piece of luck that you don't get withdrawal headaches; I get awful ones if I go off coffee cold turkey. I quit a no. of times, and discovered that the least painful way to do so was to switch to cola and gradually reduce my intake of that. Later, I noticed that coffee kept being found innocent of one alleged dire effect after another. Without some hard evidence now of serious harm, I don't see any good reason to quit.



's avatar #29954: PZ Myers — 06/27  at  07:44 AM
My reason to quit is simply that I'm finding myself indulging in excess. Moderation in all things, you know.

My plan is to go cold turkey over the summer, and then maybe once school begins I'll be able to have an occasional cup for pleasure, rather than regular pots by rote.

PZ Myers
Division of Science and Math
University of Minnesota, Morris



#29956: nanovirus — 06/27  at  08:00 AM
PZ:

Kudos to you for trying to kick the caffeine demon in the nuts. Heh.

I was the same way -- in grad school. Afterward I decided I didn't need all that caffeine and have since limited my intake to one cup of Earl Grey tea a day. I am a much happier person for it, too.

Good luck to you!



's avatar #29958: DouglasG — 06/27  at  08:29 AM
I have one cup of coffee a year. I am easily addicted and even one Mountain Dew can hook me. So, I avoid the stuff.

If you're wondering about the one cup. I go to the BWCAW every year and drive all night to get there. I have coffee with breakfast to keep me going.

Douglas E. Gogerty
-----
“No, I’m from Iowa. I just work in outer space.”
-James T. Kirk



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