On one side, creationists spout unbelievable blathering pseudoscience. I'm sorry, but pretending that centrioles are "holistically designed" is not evidence that they are designed. On the other side, they make fine-grained misconstruals of real scientists' work. That last one is a major annoyance; scientists love problems and welcome problems, but people like Dembski jump on every mention of the word "problem" to crow about the failure of Darwinism. Their habit of quote mining, of pulling words out of context and using them in a way contrary to the author's intent, makes discussion with them impossible.

Creationists are insincere frauds. Can we just tell them to go away now? I'm fed up with them.