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Thursday, December 02, 2004

What women are supposed to want

What do you think of these statements?

Women gauge their happiness and judge their success by their relationships. Men's happiness and success hinge on their accomplishments.
Men tend to be more tuned in to what is happening today and what needs to be done for a secure future. When women began to enter the work force at an equal pace with men, companies noticed that women were not as concerned about preparing for retirement. This stems from the priority men and women place on the past, present, and future.
Just as a woman needs to feel a man's devotion to her, a man has a primary need to feel a woman's admiration. To admire a man is to regard him with wonder, delight, and approval. A man feels admired when his unique characteristics and talents happily amaze her.

They come straight out of high school textbooks that are being pushed by our government. You see, the Bush administration has been peddling this thing called SPRANS (Special Programs of Regional and National Significance Community-Based Abstinence Education), which dispenses $170 million/year to promote abstinence-only education—health education that specifically and intentionally omits any mention of basic facts about sex and contraception other than "don't do it." As it turns out, though, there's more to them than just federally mandated lacunae: they also are rife with errors, outrageously misleading falsehoods, and a kind of 1950s mentality that treats women as little helpmeets to their hardworkin' men. Download and read Henry Waxman's The Content of Federally Funded Abstinence-Only Education Programs (pdf) to see even more details.

11 of 13 curricula reviewed were full of crap. Some of it is trite nonsense that perpetuates odious stereotypes about men and women…

One book in the "Choosing the Best" series presents a story about a knight who saves a princess from a dragon. The next time the dragon arrives, the princess advises the knight to kill the dragon with a noose, and the following time with poison, both of which work but leave the knight feeling "ashamed." The knight eventually decides to marry a village maiden, but did so "only after making sure she knew nothing about nooses or poison." The curriculum concludes:
Moral of the story: Occasional suggestions and assistance may be alright, but too much of it will lessen a man's confidence or even turn him away from his princess.
One curriculum teaches that men are sexually aggressive and lack deep emotions. In a chart of the top five women's and men's basic needs, the curriculum lists "sexual fulfillment" and "physical attractiveness" as two of the top five "needs" in the men's section. "Affection," "Conversation," "Honesty and Openness," and "Family Commitment" are listed only as women's needs. The curriculum teaches: "A male is usually less discriminating about those to whom he is sexually attracted. . . . Women usually have greater intuitive awareness of how to develop a loving relationship."
The same curriculum tells participants: "While a man needs little or no preparation for sex, a woman often needs hours of emotional and mental preparation.

…but it also includes plain lies about basic health and medicine. They claim that 5-10% of women getting abortions will be sterile; that abortions lead to increased risk of mental retardation in subsequent births; that abortions increase the risk of ectopic pregnancies; that women who abort are more prone to suicide. They also promote the silly "life begins at conception" idea.

Here's Waxman's summary of the situation:

  • Abstinence-Only Curricula Contain False Information about the Effectiveness of Contraceptives. Many of the curricula misrepresent the effectiveness of condoms in preventing sexually transmitted diseases and pregnancy. One curriculum says that "the popular claim that ‘condoms help prevent the spread of STDs,' is not supported by the data"; another states that "n heterosexual sex, condoms fail to prevent HIV approximately 31% of the time"; and another teaches that a pregnancy occurs one out of every seven times that couples use condoms. These erroneous statements are presented as proven scientific facts.
  • Abstinence-Only Curricula Contain False Information about the Risks of Abortion. One curriculum states that 5% to 10% of women who have legal abortions will become sterile; that "[p]remature birth, a major cause of mental retardation, is increased following the abortion of a first pregnancy"; and that "[t]ubal and cervical pregnancies are increased following abortions." In fact, these risks do not rise after the procedure used in most abortions in the United States.
  • Abstinence-Only Curricula Blur Religion and Science. Many of the curricula present as scientific fact the religious view that life begins at conception. For example, one lesson states: "Conception, also known as fertilization, occurs when one sperm unites with one egg in the upper third of the fallopian tube. This is when life begins." Another curriculum calls a 43-day-old fetus a "thinking person."
  • Abstinence-Only Curricula Treat Stereotypes about Girls and Boys as Scientific Fact. One curriculum teaches that women need "financial support," while men need "admiration." Another instructs: "Women gauge their happiness and judge their success on their relationships. Men's happiness and success hinge on their accomplishments."
  • Abstinence-Only Curricula Contain Scientific Errors. In numerous instances, the abstinence-only curricula teach erroneous scientific information. One curriculum incorrectly lists exposure to sweat and tears as risk factors for HIV transmission. Another curriculum states that "twenty-four chromosomes from the mother and twenty-four chromosomes from the father join to create this new individual"; the correct number is 23.

The Bush Administration: Keeping America Ignorant Since 2001.

Anyone remember when George W. Bush was calling himself the "education president?" I guess now we know what that meant.


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Comments:
#10124: — 12/02  at  08:14 AM
GWBush and education: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." Try to say this using Inago Montoya's accent (from The Princess Bride).



#10125: — 12/02  at  08:15 AM
Wow. There has to come a point when these things stop surprising us. I dread that time. I first heard this from Kurt Vonnegut in a class, but he didn't say he'd coined the phrase: "The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity."



#10126: — 12/02  at  08:27 AM
GOP sex education: now being brought to you by the same folks who routinely lie about evolution...



's avatar #10127: Ben — 12/02  at  08:38 AM
While a man needs little or no preparation for sex, a woman often needs hours of emotional and mental preparation.

Yeah, or just four or five tequila slammers. Since when do excerpts from the Cosmo Quiz qualify as school curricula?

"The great trouble is that the preachers get the children from six to seven years of age and then it is almost impossible to do anything with them." --Thomas Edison.



#10129: — 12/02  at  08:54 AM
Covington, I am no longer surprised. I, too, dreaded this time, but here it is. This drivel sounds like the anti-marijuana propaganda of the '50s.



's avatar #10135: Ben — 12/02  at  09:35 AM
Except there's no modern-day equivalent to Reefer Madness to make it all worthwhile.

"The great trouble is that the preachers get the children from six to seven years of age and then it is almost impossible to do anything with them." --Thomas Edison.



#10138: — 12/02  at  09:56 AM
There is now.



#10139: profgrrrrl — 12/02  at  10:04 AM
I want to not be shocked and surprised, but every time I hear this crap I am.

And puh-lease ... the correct response to the princess and prince story is that the *princess* decides she doesn't need some loser with ego issues and finds herself a real man who respects her intelligence. (incidentally, the real man ends up being cuter and having fewer mommy issues, too)



#10141: — 12/02  at  10:13 AM
This reminds me of the Tonio K song:

WHAT WOMEN WANT
(Tonio K.)

i know what these women want
they want sex
yeah, that's true, but
i know what these women want
they want money
yeah, that too, but
i know what these women want
i know what these women really want

i know what these women want
they want champagne and jewelry
and german cars
i know what these women want
they want roses by the dozen
wanna break your heart, but
i know what these women want
i know what these women really want

they want love
it's been a problem for a couple thousand years
can't seem to find it 'cause it always disappears
they want love
don't need no forgery, don't need no substitute
they need somebody honest, not just somebody that's cute
they want some affection
and some protection
that's what they want

i know what these women want
they wanna fight
we've got 'em pretty mad, boys
i know what these women want
they wanna lay down and die sometimes
'cause it hurts
i know what these women want
i know what these women really want

they want love
they want a lover, they don't want no little boy
don't wanna wind up bein' someone's broken toy
they want love
they want somebody they can maybe even trust
they've got a feeling
they're not asking all that much
some affection
and just a little protection
that's what they want

i think that's all they want

©1986 Bibo Music Publishers/N.Y.M.



#10142: — 12/02  at  10:14 AM
Or have the princess decides she needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle, grow out her leg hair until she looks like a clydesdale, and live happily ever after as a divorce lawyer who volunteers her nights in a whole-foods coop.



's avatar #10143: — 12/02  at  10:16 AM
When women began to enter the work force at an equal pace with men, companies noticed that women were not as concerned about preparing for retirement.

Yes. This is exactly why I have a fat 403(b) and my ex husband is in debt up to his arse. *rolls eyes*

"The good thing about books is there are sometimes good pictures in them." -W



#10147: — 12/02  at  10:50 AM
There has been some interesting work in evolutionary psychology done on lonely hearts advertisements showing sexually dimorphic mating strategies. The papers suggest that men focus on physical attractiveness and youth (an indicator of good genes and large lifetime reproductive capacity) whereas women look more for careers, money and a capacity to rear children (attributes that will contribute to the upbringing of potential offspring). So some of the stuff cited might not be completely without basis.

I'm not suggesting anybody who had a hand in the aforementioned drivel actually took the time to read the paper, by the way. Just thought people might be interested in the work...

(e.g. Thiessen, D., Young, R.K. and Burroughs, R. (1993). Lonely hearts advertisements reflect sexually dimorphic mating strategies, Ethology and Sociobiology, 14(3): 209-229)



#10148: wolfangel — 12/02  at  11:12 AM
I've decided it's a clever plot. The people who will teach their children the reality of sex & birth control tend liberal; the people who teach that condoms cause AIDS tend conservative. So what we're doing is increasing the number of conservatives (compared to liberals) so that this "close election" business stops.



#10149: — 12/02  at  11:13 AM
Of the couple dozen women I know well, and the hundreds I associate with on occasion, one (a mildly deranged sister) might fit this '50's housewife description, the rest of them will set their sons and daughers straight the minute they get home. Of course the vast majority of students will laugh out loud at this crap. My take no prisoners grandmothers would both scoff with derision at this nonsense. We can only hope that this crap will inspire some angry mothers to run for school board. One of my grandmothers kept herself on every governing board she could (in the '50s in a small eastern Oregon town of 5000) just because she wanted to do something about stupid stuff that pissed her off. We can only hope there are many other like her waiting in the wings.

Maybe we can get Bush to sign his name to every pamphlet and book with this crap in them so the next generation of our youth will know who is responsible for these jokes.



#10155: — 12/02  at  12:09 PM
Egads.

I think your "Science Only" option might start attracting a secondary market PZ: those of us who don't want to be depressed in the morning...



#10158: Rana — 12/02  at  12:29 PM
Perhaps it's a subtle strategy to make liberals more amenable to home-schooling and vouchers -- kinda like how now the blue states are contemplating taking up states' rights on their own behalf.



#10166: bitchphd — 12/02  at  02:15 PM
Yeah, well, if we have to keep fighting feminism 101, we won't have time for more advanced classes like "whatever happened to the 40-hour work week" and "the wage gap still exists, you know" and "maybe we should have social security for caregivers."

It's a clever strategy. Hateful, but effective.



#10185: — 12/02  at  06:51 PM
The faint hope that I cling to--that this sort of thing will eventually lead to such a massive backlash that it will fling the nation kicking and screaming into some sort of age of reason--is growing fainter by the day...



#10190: DarkSyde — 12/02  at  08:10 PM
You know it's a little off topic but relates to the incessant demonization of sex...Ms Lafave, the school teacher who allegedly 'took advantage' of a fourteen year old student and 'focred him' to indulge her sexually has made a reappareance in the media...
Has everyone seen Ms Lafave? She's pretty damn hot. I personally dreamed regularly about a woman like her 'forcing me' to indulge her at age 14. I want to know what kind of red blooded 14 year old male would percieve this as a problem.



#10193: — 12/03  at  01:19 AM
First, Amanda picked out her favorite part of the report: "After conception, the tiny baby moves down the fallopian tube toward the mother's uterus. About the sixth to tenth day after conception, when the baby is no bigger than this dot (.), baby snuggles into the soft nest in the lining of the mother's uterus.71" Read Amanda's rant if you're in the mood to read about feathered uteruses.

Second, life begins at conception. Personhood does not. Blastocysts are alive, as are carrots before we so callously rip them out of the ground. It does not follow from that fact that blastocysts' or carrots' lives must be preserved at all costs.



#10194: — 12/03  at  02:33 AM
Just FYI, some of that material...and _especially_ the Knight&Dragon story is taken directly from "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus." One hopes they secured copyright.

And while I well realise the dangers of generalizations; surprisingly, the book (not the textbook material, which I have given only a very cursory glance at) seems to describe me relatively well. Maybe not all men and I'm not even going to try to take a guess at women. But for me, it seems to work. wink



#10195: Socar — 12/03  at  03:04 AM
Honestly, where on earth does the stereotype that women are more emotional/less rational than men spring from, anyway? If you look closely at the way men and women are represented in the media, the opposite seems to be true. Men are the ones shown committing acts of violence, going on ill-advised crusades on the spur of the moment, losing their tempers, starting wars, and so forth. Women, on the other hand, although they're depicted as weaker, tend to confine their emotional displays to a few tears, or maybe a stern dressing-down. Men are the ones running about hysterically, like chickens with their heads cut off. (In the real world, of course, violent, immoderate women are disturbingly common, so there probably wouldn't be much basis for saying we're REALLY more rational than men. Ha, ha.)

Really, though, these quotations are ridiculous. The level of education in America is becoming constantly more embarrassing. In other parts of the world, "American" is fast becoming synonymous with "stupid". It's this kind of garbage that gives the US such a bad name. It must be humiliating for the thinking population.



#10196: Socar — 12/03  at  03:13 AM
PS - My comment, above, should be read with a wink and a smile in the tone, especially the first paragraph.



#10198: Rahel — 12/03  at  05:31 AM
Ugh, don't even try to defend that piece of garbage that is “Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus”. I'm happy you feel it describes you; but that's hardly surprising, seeing as it's just a re-formulation of all the stupid gender myths we've all hear for our whole lives, and we do tend to believe (and become) what we're told we are from age zero. The fact that so many people don't fit the stereotypes despite the fact that they are so common should be enough to get rid of them already. And the pathetic attempts at making it all sound "scientific" by making up stories about how making money is *just like* hunting, and cleaning your house is *just like* gathering... Really.



's avatar #10203: PZ Myers — 12/03  at  10:26 AM
Terrible book, and scamming, scum-sucking parasite for an author: John Gray is a fraud. If that's the quality of the sources these curricula are using, the problems are really deep.

PZ Myers
Division of Science and Math
University of Minnesota, Morris



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