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Wednesday, December 29, 2004

What's Really Important?

Deep under the now scenic, placid blue seas of southeast Asia, a geological horror is forming of gargantuan proportions. One which will leave its novel signature for eons in the rocky column. A new layer of strata has been laid down, but this deposit is uniquely macabre. It's a hominid bone-bed. Mixed in with the newly forming sandstones, limestones, shales, and chalk, are the remains of a civilization. Homes, trees, crops, cars, factories. And the unthinkable human toll: 300,000* dead men, women, and children. The last thoughts they had must have been rife with stark raving terror. At least tonight they lay peacefully, no longer wide eyed in fear, the final echo of their lives flickering through their oxygen deprived psyche. At least that part is over, for them; back in the earth from which we all, ultimately, arise and then return.

On the altered coastlines of Sumatra, Indonesia and nearby countries, whole villages are missing; there's just water, sand, and debris where entire towns once stood. To estimate the dead, local officials, the few who are left, are having to consult maps with GPS coordinates and then looking to see if there's still a community at that location. If there is nothing but rubble, or, even more startling, a pristine clean beach with no trace of survivors or homes, shops, and streets, they take the last population reported, and add it to the growing list of victims. It's that bad.

And, it's not over. This tragedy isn't over by a long shot. More will die, perhaps as many as have already perished in the blink of one bright Sunday morning, perhaps more. There are tens of millions of stunned, injured, and homeless people, some dying as I write this, stumbling around aimlessly in mosquito-infested swamps looking desperately for food, for clothing, for their loved ones; hoping against hope to find anyone they know. They are looking for a way to live. They are fighting for their very right to exist. Sadly, those survivors are going to be cut down in great numbers from the ensuing starvation, disease, lack of medicine, and the inevitable, panic-induced violence.

Many of the affected countries have a high population of Muslims. These tend to be the moderate Muslim nations. The cultures which have helped us the most in the fight against Al Qaeda. These are the very people who we would like to enlist in helping us fight international Islamic Militants, and the ones who are most likely to cooperate in doing so. They are industrious people, known for their commitment to science and education. But the real reason we have to help is not because of what they can do for us, but because of what we can do for them; our brothers and sisters, our grand nieces and maternal nephews, in our great family. They need help.

Wouldn't you think this catastrophe would be the kind of thing we, as a nation, would want to reach out to and soften, anyway we can? Even if it's not something that's going to directly benefit us? That we'd want to lend a hand, no matter who the victims are? If not now, when? If not for this, what for? If not for political gain, for simple humanity? For decency?

FOR VALUES?

Because we are all human, and this is utter human devastation. This could have been us. It's human misery on the scale of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. This is 100 Titanics. This is twice the Vietnam War. And it's something we could make an enormous difference in, the most serious kind of difference, the difference between life and death, for thousands of our fellow travelers rocketing around our local star on this small world we all share.

I don't want to sound like I'm trying to make a political statement here, this isn't the appropriate place for that kind of thing. This disaster transcends petty politics, no doubt. But, I have to say honestly, I'm effin ashamed of my country. We first pledged 15 million, and then increased it to 40 million. Forty-Million dollars ... Sounds like a lot? To put that in perspective, we're going to spend 40 to 50 million in Washington, DC, in one afternoon, on the Presidential Inauguration. To give our pledge some context, we're spending about 100 to 200 million dollars a day in Iraq. We spend damn near 40 million for beer, chips, and soft drinks in this country every day.

Our leaders, the leaders of the richest, most prosperous nation on Earth, could have been flown in on Air Force One and other senior executive aircraft to the region in a few hours, check-book in hand, to respectfully represent our sorrow, our grief, and most important, our life-saving generosity. Surely that would have made a better photo-op than a carrier landing. They could have shown the Muslim World and the international community what the America you and I know is really about, and done so in a positive, charitable way. Instead, our White House is on vacation ... Godamn, our response so far makes me feel ashamed to be an American. It's not just poor leadership and poor PR, it's immoral.

And you know what? I don't have to put up with that shit. I don't have to let those assholes speak for me. I just gave 50 dollars to Red Crescent, earmarked to save my brothers lives, and I feel pretty damn good about doing it! I felt so good about it, I gave another fifty for those of you who may be struggling. It's a few days after Christmas, it would be truthful for me to say that things are a little tighter than usual around DarkSyde Manor. But that's a cop-out. I can easily afford it. Hell, by not eating fast food at lunch for a month I can afford it. Save lives and avoid fast food for a month? That's a bargain I can't pass up.

I realize we have a lot of students, single moms, single dads, folks who are sick, and on fixed incomes, reading this site and making up this wonderful zany community we call Pharyngula. But if you can give a little, please think about it. Not everyone can afford to give a hundred bucks, not everyone can afford to give anything at all, but if you can spare ten dollars, get off your duff and do it. Just because our leaders think billions in corporate welfare, and mega buck weapons systems to kill people, are better ways to spend money than saving the helpless victims of disaster, doesn't mean I have to let them speak for me. And I won't.

Lots of ways you can contribute are being tracked by The Command Post. They're really on top of this, and I think they deserve some recogniton. Even if you can't spare the change, maybe some of us could go visit their Blog and say howdy to them, and let them know how we feel.

Update: Crooked Timber has a deal up concerning Amazon for donations. Hat Tip: Isabel who also has some additional donation info
on her Blog.

UPDATE: Death Toll now estimated at over 200,000, expected to rise to perhaps 400,000. Several medium sized cities in Indonesia cannot be located reliably. No survivors see in aeriel surveys.

Update: In comments JBarker asked: I’m still seeing 124,000 dead on the BBC. Are these extrapolations taking into account starvation and disease in the coming weeks? Or are they still just referring to the immediate tsunami death toll?

Last night on MSNBC's News Program Countdown with Keith Olbler, several local reporters were discussing an aerial reconnaissance survey of the hardest hit area in Indonesia. Apparently, at least three medium sized cities, with population in the 100,000 or so each, are basically ... gone. They reported no structures left standing, no survivors sighted. The affected urban centers cannot be reached at this time by land; the roads are gone, the terrain is treacherously swamped out marshland. It is unknown if the residents had time to flee in large numbers, but the reporters and officials are assuming the worst.

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Comments:
#12691: Jan Theodore Galkowski — 01/07  at  11:15 AM
Technology Review has a blog which is some nutcase environmental types are linking the tsunami to global warming. I can't imagine any better way to arm people who think global warming is made up. However, the same blog badly mischaracterized Dawkins' position.

The point of the blog as near as I can make out was to discredit the idea of a link. I don't know where it's going after that. Apparently, Greenpeace is denying they said the things a newspaper said they said about this.

Wanna see uncomplicated science get sidetracked, and the public's collective opinion of scientists get cut down a notch again?

Fooey!



's avatar #12701: Chris Clarke — 01/07  at  01:40 PM
Technology Review has a blog which is some nutcase environmental types are linking the tsunami to global warming.


That's not exactly right. The blog links to a poorly written short news item from a Chinese wire service (fairly redundant), that mischaracterization of Dawkins' remarks, and a piece by noted Crichtonoid liar Dennis Avery.

I wouldn't completely dismiss a climate-tsunami link, though not in the direction the blog linked above is correctly debunking. It's been turning out that where they existed last month, intact and healthy coral reefs and mangrove forests apparently mitigated the worst effects of the tsunami. Both biotic communities are threatened by climate change (though there are other more immediate threats to both as well.) Obviosuly, tsunamis are not climatic events, but climate may serve to remove or weaken the natural buffers to tsunami damage.

"I do not think we should antagonize the religious when it is not warranted, though I think we should be willing to do so whenever it is.”
-- Glen Davidson



#12708: — 01/07  at  02:10 PM
Harry Eagar:
Anyhow, moderate Muslims, if any, are letting bad guys hijack their religion. Time for you guys to get a move on.


Quite amusing, watching you sidle round to a point where you can acknowledge the existence of moderate Muslims without seeming to do so. But to answer your point, yes, it's quite a task considering the types of mindsets we're dealing with - and I don't just mean the terrorists. It's not easy to talk to someone when they don't acknowledge your existence, and the countless scaremongerers don't help either. I detect brief glimmers of intellect in parts of your posts - I suggest you don't waste it by being ignorant.

If you'd like more evidence than just my word, check out IslamiCity.com - they're a pretty down to earth type and from what I've seen are representative of the majority view amongst Muslims - some of their articles are quite relevant and informative.

If you'd like to see the other side's propoganda machine, and what's being done in the Middle East to counter the Sirens' Call that Bush et al. have created to aid bin Laden's recruitment officers, then go to Link TV's MOSAIC and click on 'Watch Episode' for an English translation of a round up of news from that region of the world. I'll warn you now though, don't be surprised when you fail to hear a call to kill all infidels every other sentence.



#12717: Jan Theodore Galkowski — 01/07  at  02:50 PM
That’s not exactly right. The blog links to a poorly written short news item from a Chinese wire service (fairly redundant), that mischaracterization of Dawkins’ remarks, and a piece by noted Crichtonoid liar Dennis Avery.


Sorry for the mischaracterization. I was and am moving fast. Thought it better to mention it than leave it out 'til I was certain, 'cause it then wouldn't have been included at all.

My concern is if a "Tsunami and Global Warming Linked" headline gets out into the public media without challenge, all I know is it's bad for science and scientists.



's avatar #12724: Chris Clarke — 01/07  at  03:20 PM
Here is a piece in today's Salon (ad viewing required, sorry) that details the right-wing origins of the "Enviros link Climate Change, Tsunami" hoax.

"I do not think we should antagonize the religious when it is not warranted, though I think we should be willing to do so whenever it is.”
-- Glen Davidson



#12755: — 01/07  at  09:06 PM
I was inclined to let it lie, Genejob, but this afternoon on NPR I heard a commentary by a Muslim woman trying to delude us infidels (yeah, I know, you make a distinction between 'people of the book' and plain pagans, but it's a distinction without a difference; and besides, I'm an atheist and so marked for destruction anyhow) into thinking that 'jihad' means only 'spiritual struggle' and 'godly behavior' and that it got its pejorative meaning (to us infidels) only recently.

Unfortunately for her, I know more history than that.

Another example of Muslims pretending they are not what they are.

I give you credit for trying, but your argument amounts to a new version of the 'good German' argument. I don't buy it for Germans and I don't buy it for Muslims.

At the very least, real 'moderates' would stop blaming their behavior on the Joos. You did that.

There may be a genuine Muslim moderate individual here and there, but there is, so obviously, no moderate Muslim political movement, anywhere.



#12761: Jan Theodore Galkowski — 01/07  at  10:31 PM
There's a pretty interesting interview about the fight against Islamic extremism from one person's vantage at FT today. Alas, it may be another "registration required" link, but let's try. My preliminary tests say not.

Oh, a warning: It'll make you hungry. It's some lunch!



#12771: — 01/08  at  03:30 AM
Some Muslims do cite a hadith saying that the greater jihad is the spiritual one at home. I don't think I've ever heard any Muslim denying that there is a military Jihad, but that woman is entitled to her opinion, wrong as it may be. The fact that you choose to take her statements as an attempt 'to delude', as opposed to simply mistaken, says a lot about your own character.

The word 'jihad' actually means 'struggle', not 'holy war' as it is so often mistranslated in the West. It is a different concept to war, which in arabic is 'harb', and if one looks to the texts then Jihad only applies in certain circumstances, but never to instigate aggression. Furthermore, there are strict rules governing behaviour during jihad.

That's why the terrorists have such little support in the Muslim world. They have to stretch their interpretations too far to justify their means for most Muslims to accept it as Jihad, and their degree of ignorance and their literalist mindset often matches that of the ones attacking Islam.

I'm reassessing my earlier appraisal - do you not realise that a 'distinction without a difference' is an oxymoron? Of course there's a difference - for example, I can marry a Christian or Jewish lady, based on the premise that her beliefs and lifestyle are sufficiently compatible with my own. The prophet Muhammad had both Christian and Jewish wives.

Atheists are marked for destruction? Somehow I don't see Islam becoming the second largest and the most practiced religion in the world by killing anyone who doesn't immediately convert! Another great myth propogated by the Orientalists is that Islam was spread by the sword. I'd suggest that you begin obtaining information from reputable Muslim sources, not anti-Muslim. You never know, you might actually learn something. And as far as moderate muslim political groups go, I think you've been living in a cupboard all your life. Have you not looked at the numerous links I've provided? The two most prominent ones in the UK are The Muslim Council of Britain, and The Muslim Association of Britain. In the USA there is the Muslim American Society.

Another thing - not all Zionists are 'Joos' (as you so eloquently put it), and not all 'Joos' are Zionists. But I suppose to you that's just a distinction without a difference.



#12774: — 01/08  at  04:27 AM
Jan, that's an interesting article, and highlights some of the problems with the so-called 'war on terror'. Other than having my mouth watering whilst attempting to read, my main contention was that the reporter neglected to mention that the UK too has been holding Muslim suspects without trial, for the past three years or so now, albeit on a smaller scale. After the recent scandal and subsequent resignation of our previous Home Secretary, the Law Lords have ruled that the men are being imprisoned unlawfully. Despite this, the British Government continues to defy the law by refusing to release the men or try them.

Another point regarding maintaining democratic values - when the Algerians held their first elections since 1948 a decade or so ago, the Muslim party won a land-slide victory in the first round, only to have it immediately annulled by the French-backed army. The country was thrown into civil war, and has only recently begun to recover. Need I mention that there's oil in Algeria?

So much for freedom and democracy.



#12779: — 01/08  at  08:19 AM
Chris and Jan,

I can see the headlines on competing checkout line rags. 'Falwell claims God sent Tsunami to wipe out brothels' and 'Earth First has proof Global Warming created destruction'. At which point the semi-intelligent public will dismiss the subject and we will hear background noise about how there is no point to trying to save the environment since Mother Nature will destroy it anyway, or because God's will shall prevail.

Meanwhile young asian girls will continue to be sold into slavery and salmon will continue to needlessly disappear.



's avatar #12789: Chris Clarke — 01/08  at  10:29 AM
And it'll be the same people writing both headlines, DD.

"I do not think we should antagonize the religious when it is not warranted, though I think we should be willing to do so whenever it is.”
-- Glen Davidson



#12791: Jan Theodore Galkowski — 01/08  at  11:03 AM
DD:
... and salmon will continue to needlessly disappear.


By the way, on the subject of food, what's with the "farm-raised salmon" I'm seeing in stores? How do you raise a salmon in a pen? Aren't they supposed to be aggressive and free swimming? Do you know?

The other thing about salmon in our stores is the adjective "colorized". Hmmmm.



's avatar #12793: Chris Clarke — 01/08  at  12:45 PM
Jan, here's a (not unbiased) answer to your salmon questions. (Seth's a friend of mine, though, and I trust his biases are tempered with factchecking.)

"I do not think we should antagonize the religious when it is not warranted, though I think we should be willing to do so whenever it is.”
-- Glen Davidson



#12794: — 01/08  at  01:02 PM
Sigh. Genejob, maybe you haven't heard other Muslims claim that jihad is merely a spiritual struggle for self-mastery, but it is common coin among 'good Muslims,' not that they do any more about correcting or suppressing the murderous Muslims than the 'good Germans' did about the militant nationalists.

I use 'delude' advisedly. There is, I believe, a statement somewhere in the welter of Muslim sacred writings/traditions that it is either OK or praiseworthy to lie to the infidels.

Certainly, that is the practice. I've had an imam assure me that Islam does not permit slavery. He went away when I asked him who, then, were the Janissaries of the Sultan/Caliph and whether the Caliph was a Muslim?

You can stop attributing to me statements until I make them. I'll defend the ones I make. Nowhere did I say that Islam was spread mostly or entirely by the sword, although that was one method.

You're the one who has revised your initial remarks on guinea worm upward by more than four orders of magnitude. I'm standing pat on mine.

'Distinction without a difference' is not an oxymoron.

I'll say it again: if there were any moderate Muslims, and if they actually cared to preserve the 'religion of peace' they claim to care about, they'd turn over the extremists practically overnight. If they cared . . .



's avatar #12798: Chris Clarke — 01/08  at  02:34 PM
’ll say it again: if there were any moderate Muslims, and if they actually cared to preserve the ‘religion of peace’ they claim to care about, they’d turn over the extremists practically overnight. If they cared …


Interesting assertion.

So what are you doing to overturn Western extremism, Harry?

"I do not think we should antagonize the religious when it is not warranted, though I think we should be willing to do so whenever it is.”
-- Glen Davidson



#12802: — 01/08  at  03:53 PM
Jan,

Those wild salmon appeared to be so aggressive and powerful that we erected giant concrete barriers in the middle of the Columbia and Snake rivers. That finally cut down on their numbers enough that the farmed salmon became the answer to meet the demand. Recent attempts were made to remove the 4 dams lowest on the Snake river only to be met with intense local outrage. This ranks slighty ahead of 'the wolves will eat your children' in my neighborhood as reasons cited to hate liberals, environmentalists, the federal government and everyone east of Missoula.

It is reported that when Lewis & Clark came through they preferred to eat dog/coyote as they found salmon meat unappetizing.

Harry, You could have done your part to overturn western extremism and aggression by ... voting Bush out of office, for instance.



#12811: — 01/08  at  06:00 PM
Desert Donkey: I believe that Lewis and Clarke, on the return journey differed as to favorite meat, one choosing dog, the other pronghorn.

By the way, I tried Steak Tartar last night for the first time. It was far better than expected.



#12832: — 01/08  at  10:25 PM
And how do you know I didn't?

I see that the loving, peaceful, get-along-witn-everybody Muslims in Aceh have chased a Catholic priest out who was trying to help children.

When I see raving Baptists doing the same to imams, I'll publish my objections.

Deal?



#12833: Jan Theodore Galkowski — 01/09  at  12:10 AM
I see that the loving, peaceful, get-along-witn-everybody Muslims in Aceh have chased a Catholic priest out who was trying to help children.


While perhaps the priest in question was being entirely sincere, he carries the baggage of his order and his profession which, generally speaking, pursues being a representative of God first and a human second.

That, in itself, is a reason to mistrust.



#12834: Jan Theodore Galkowski — 01/09  at  12:17 AM
There may be a light on the horizon!



#12835: Jan Theodore Galkowski — 01/09  at  12:23 AM
Sorry folks, that last link requires a subscription. Who's to know?

To provide a synopsis, the writer, a Christopher Caldwell, writes an interesting piece on Faith, hope and reality, somehow seeking to connect the experience of providing assistance to southeast Asia in a faith-neutral way with BushCo's "faith-based initiatives" domestically.

On and on, lots of details.

But the heartening feature of the article is quotable:

Last week, another possible explanation emerged for why faith-based initiatives have not yet carried the day. A compilation of yearly Gallup poll data on religion was published, giving some cause to believe that Americans have become less, not more, religious over the past half-decade. Since 1999, the percentage of those who call themselves born-again Christians has fallen from 46 to 41. Over the same period, the percentage of those who say religion "can answer most problems" has fallen from 67 to 59. About the only religious index that has risen is the percentage who assume religion has an increasing influence on American life.

What explains the contradiction? Maybe it is just that the media have taken more notice of religion lately or that religious institutions are a lagging indicator, only now claiming the political clout that was due to them five years ago.

But if the high-water mark for American religiosity was indeed reached some time in the past decade, a diminishing vogue for faith-based initiatives would be the least of the changes we can expect.

Perhaps "faith" is a fad whose time has come and gone. After all, no amount of praying seems to inhibit a spray of death from a roadside bomb in Iraq, even if the troops are, according to these so-called faithful, doing God's work.



#12836: Jan Theodore Galkowski — 01/09  at  12:37 AM
Now this is a proper separation of church and state.



#12867: — 01/10  at  06:06 AM
Harry Eagar:
I use ‘delude’ advisedly. There is, I believe, a statement somewhere in the welter of Muslim sacred writings/traditions that it is either OK or praiseworthy to lie to the infidels.

Your statements are almost laughable - almost. Looks like I'm going to have to lead you to the water yet again. Shall we see what the Quran says about lying?

"A painful doom is theirs because they lie" Quran 2:10
"We hurl truth against falsehood" Quran 21:18
"How they lie against themselves" Quran 6:24

There are many more similar verses. I don't suppose you'd care to cite your references?

If you're looking for liars, I suggest you look no further than your own government - they lied to the world in order to justify the butchering and pillaging of a whole nation. The fact that you appear to be one of their supporters and the fallacious nature of your previous posts again reflects badly on you.


Harry Eagar:
You can stop attributing to me statements until I make them.

Read back and pay attention. I didn't attribute that statement to you.


Harry Eagar:
You’re the one who has revised your initial remarks on guinea worm upward by more than four orders of magnitude. I’m standing pat on mine.

You're disingenuity is beginning to show through:

Harry Eagar: "...guinea worm afflicted 2 million Pakistanis/year every year..."

Genejob: "[UNICEF]Pakistan:
Guinea worm cases reported 1990 - 160
Guinea worm cases reprted 2000 - 0"

Harry Eagar: "You didn’t go back far enough, genejob. Try visiting those rightwing nuts at the Carter Center"

Genejob: "The largest figure I’ve found at the Carter Center’s site was 3.2 million worldwide, back when the program began."

As you can see, I quoted two separate statistics and have not revised either of them. You can 'stand pat' all you like, you still haven't been able to back your claim.



's avatar #12891: Chris Clarke — 01/10  at  09:57 AM
And how do you know I didn’t?


I don't know you didn't. That's why I asked. It's become a field mark of the North American Loon that they complain about other people not taking stands, while their own political activity consists of posting stuff on blogs. I asked because I was trying to see where you fit in the Field Guide to North American Loons' dichotomous key.

I see that the loving, peaceful, get-along-witn-everybody Muslims in Aceh have chased a Catholic priest out who was trying to help children.


I was raised Catholic. They did the right thing.

"I do not think we should antagonize the religious when it is not warranted, though I think we should be willing to do so whenever it is.”
-- Glen Davidson



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