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Thursday, September 22, 2005

When dining in Australia, avoid the seafood

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That's just a note to myself; I'm getting the impression that everything in Australia is somehow lethally poisonous. I was just reading this paper about octopus caught off the northwest coast of Australia (for me, reading about obscure cephalopods combines scientific curiousity, the erotic appeal of the exotic, and a little gustatory anticipation), and I'm looking at the pretty picture and thinking "yum," as I'm sure you all are, too, and then I notice the alarming message: these guys are loaded with saxitoxin. Saxitoxin is a potent alkaloid neurotoxin—it binds to and blocks sodium channels, which means the poison basically kills all axon conduction in your nervous system. A good dose has detectable effects within minutes to hours, causing flaccid paralysis, respiratory failure, and death. It's only occasionally fatal, since recovery is possible if artificial respiration is provided, but still—who wants to visit Australia and end up limp and unconscious with a tube down your throat?

The LD50 is approximately 8 µg/kg, and these octopuses carry about 2500 µg/kg in their tissues. The toxin is widespread, unlike the tetrodotoxin found in blue-ringed octopuses, which is concentrated in their salivary glands. While not as concentrated as is sometimes found in shellfish tainted with saxitoxin produced by dinoflagellates, it's still high enough to be a health risk, especially if the consumer is someone willing to gorge themselves on mass quantities of invertebrate flesh. Like me.

I wonder if Australians imported sheep, rabbits, and cane toads just so there'd be a few animals around who aren't threatening to creep up on them and kill them.


Robertson A, Stirling D, Robillot C, Llewellyn L, Negri A (2004) First report of saxitoxin in octopi. Toxicon 44(7):765-771.


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Comments:
#41334: — 09/22  at  03:03 PM
I wonder if Australians imported sheep, rabbits, and cane toads just so there'd be a few animals around who aren't threatening to creep up on them and kill them.


Well, cane toads are poisonous....

Seriously, if you like sea food, I'd heavily recommend eating some if you are by the coast in Australia. They have some delicious fish and shell fish.



's avatar #41335: PZ Myers — 09/22  at  03:18 PM
Aaaaah! You're trying to kill me!

PZ Myers
Division of Science and Math
University of Minnesota, Morris



#41337: Mike Adams — 09/22  at  03:29 PM
No, we don't have any food that is safe to eat. All you foreigners just stay away from our poisonous nation. You are much less likely to be poisoned, stung, chomped, drop-beared, bitten, pierced or otherwise harmed by native animals in your crowded, cold and miserable countries. Stay there.



#41339: — 09/22  at  03:30 PM
I just can't bring myself to eat octopi anymore.....they're just too damned cool....the best critters the invertebrate evolutionary branch has offered up yet.



#41351: — 09/22  at  04:52 PM
Woo, octopi! I can't resist their hypnotic movements or their crispy texture when fried. Not sure I'd want to chow down on a neurotoxin-laced specimen, but I'd be damn well tempted.

Mike - Ease up, the post wasn't an attack against Australia.



#41352: — 09/22  at  05:16 PM
I wonder if Australians imported sheep, rabbits, and cane toads just so there'd be a few animals around who aren't threatening to creep up on them and kill them.


I think the idea was more along the lines of "target saturation." Enough sheep, toads, and wascally wabbits, and maybe the odds of the occasional human being poisoned drop down into the tolerable range.



#41354: — 09/22  at  05:24 PM
That particular beautiful little octopus doesn't look very happy (having presumably failed to poison enough humans to get away from them).



#41355: Kate — 09/22  at  05:25 PM
Nah. It's not like we've got any really huge deadly animals like tigers and bears... oh wait, there are the crocodiles... anyway, there's the koalas and the kangaroos and so forth, and I don't know of any cases of anyone being killed by a possum or a numbat.



#41359: — 09/22  at  06:07 PM
There are the dropbears!

Don't listen to Kate! She is trying to lure you to your doom!



#41362: Neil — 09/22  at  06:24 PM
Not only are all our creatures toxic and/or dangerous, but geographical isolation has resulted in selection for the "ability to recognise unsuspecting tourists" trait.

Relax Mike G., Mike A.'s post is just a bit of "tongue in cheek but with a straight face" Aussie humour. And seriously, our seafood is great. There's 600 species of things to eat just in Sydney Harbour.



#41370: — 09/22  at  06:55 PM
Ah. I can usually detect these things. Oh well.

I agree with the seafood statement wholeheartedly. My trip to Melbourne was one of the best I've ever taken, by culinary standards. I need to go again sometime. Maybe one of my octopus friends will meet me there.



#41372: John Emerson — 09/22  at  07:03 PM
If I'm not mistaken, the blue-ringed octopus toxin is the same as the pufferfish toxin which kills quite a few Japanese, who eat it knowingly. In small doses the toxin gives you a nice buzz, apparently. Good pufferfish chefs know exactly how to prepare the fish to give you enough, but not too much, toxin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pufferfish

How close is saxotoxin to tetrodotoxin? The effects seem similiar.



#41375: — 09/22  at  07:13 PM
PZ--
Bill Bryson's delightful _In A Sunburned Country_ discusses at amusing length the preposterous lethality of Australia's fauna.

It also, in discussing the disappearance of Prime Minister Harold Holt while swimming some 30 years ago, makes reference to "The swim that needs no towel" -- one of my favorite lines in modern literature.



's avatar #41378: PZ Myers — 09/22  at  07:21 PM
TTX and STX are different molecules, but they have similar effects: both shut down sodium channels, and both are lethal.

PZ Myers
Division of Science and Math
University of Minnesota, Morris



's avatar #41380: Virge — 09/22  at  07:38 PM
Oz is a wonderful and safe place. Why, just last night I was moving things around in the garage and I noticed a small black spider scurrying around the dusty webs in the corner. Its body shape reminded me of the redback. I went back later with a strong light and checked to see that it wasn't a redback.

See. Conclusive proof that Australia is safe.



#41384: beche-la-mer — 09/22  at  08:00 PM
PZ, you forgot to mention the irukanji jellyfish, that's smaller than a five-cent piece (or a nickel to you) so you can't see it before it lashes you with its poisonous tentacles and sends you into spasms of pain and eventual pan-systemic collapse.

I used to work in an office right on a pier in Sydney Harbour, and I would look out the window each day to see an elderly couple of Chinese extraction, in their coolie hats, fishing for their dinner. I always wondered how they survived after eating something that had been swimming in the harbour -- the pollution from all the shipping traffic and careless rubbish dumpers would be lapping around the sea wall at their feet as they were fishing!

Having said that, if you come to Australia you should really try the Sydney Rock oysters or (my favourite rarity) the wild Bateman's Bay Flat oysters. Apart from cuts and scratches trying to get the damn things open, they're not very dangerous at all.



#41387: — 09/22  at  08:23 PM
Saxitoxin is a potent alkaloid neurotoxin—it binds to and blocks sodium channels, which means the poison basically kills all axon conduction in your nervous system. A good dose has detectable effects within minutes to hours, causing flaccid paralysis, respiratory failure, and death.

The Intelligent Designer is a sadist.



#41391: — 09/22  at  08:43 PM
John Emerson wrote "Good pufferfish chefs know exactly how to prepare the fish to give you enough, but not too much, toxin."

I have on occasion wondered (a) who puffer fish chefs practice on in order to get good at it; and (b) if it's themselves they practice on in a particularly acute form of selective pressure to get real good real fast.

RBH



#41395: — 09/22  at  09:12 PM
Not that this has anything to do with the post, but I thought of Pharyngula today upon viewing this picture.



#41401: John Wilkins — 09/22  at  09:46 PM
Of course, you should avoid handling our blue ringed octopuses in southern Australia and leave them to us and our teenaged children. They only kill about three people a year that way, and we don't want ignorant furriners to raise the bar.

John S. Wilkins : evolvethought.blogspot.com



#41404: — 09/22  at  10:48 PM
Bkwyrm, there are very strict requirements that you must meet to become a fugu chef. 900 took the test in 2004, and the pass rate is only 63%. You have 20 minutes to dissect the fish, label its edible and inedible parts, and turn it into an "artful arrangement." (May 2005 National Geographic)

I'm fascinated by the whole idea of eating poisonous food. I want to say, "That's crazy," but part of me says, "Let me try!" I'm not sure what that says about me.



#41406: — 09/22  at  11:19 PM
I just read a book called 'how to poison your spouse the natural way' by Jay Mann and it tells all the ways that our food can poison us. It's just not only Australia that has dangerous foods. If what he says about "organic" food is true (that the plants respond to the increase pest attack due to no pesticides being used by producing lots more toxins) then I'm staying away from that for good.



#41408: — 09/22  at  11:50 PM
This may seem like a stupid question (and unlike what I tell my students, I know there are some), but how does that octopus live with 2.5 mg/kg neurotoxin in its flesh? Does it have weird and unique sodium channels? Is the toxin in some pre-toxin form that requires processing? I can understand a specialized toxin bearing organ, but this is odd to me.



#41414: — 09/23  at  02:54 AM
Why not octopuses or octopodes in a scholarly journal, when octopi isn't even a fair plural for the latinization ? Will some scholar say why?
I'm not even a part-time pedant. My greek mates at the jetty call them
khaetipodi
I call them kalimari. yummo. Being in the Australian Southwest on the Indian Ocean, we don't get many of those tourist-repellers like Funnelweb Spiders and Koalas.
It seems to me that Pacific is false advertising.



#41416: dtl — 09/23  at  02:58 AM
Paul O, you just beat me to that question.



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