PZ Myers. 2005 Apr 11. Minnesota has its share of morons. <http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/minnesota_has_its_share_of_morons/>. Accessed 2009 Jul 04.
Posted on M00o93H7pQ09L8X1t49cHY01Z5j4TT91fGfr on Monday, April 11, 2005
Minnesota has its share of morons
Really, I swear that I don't usually read that idiot Vox Day, but I found this link at Eleventh Avenue South and simply couldn't believe it. But it's true, there are people from Minnesota who really say things like this:
Far too many women are fascists at heart. You can see this at work in almost every female-dominant organization and in the way that women's organizations constantly attempt to force change on everyone, men and women, who don't want it. Some people think the Founding Fathers had never even considered the thought of allowing women to vote, that it was just a historical oversight on the part of some unconsciously sexist men. I suspect that they knew perfectly well what they were doing, given the obvious connection between the female franchise and the West's continental drift into socialism.
And, as Andy says, the comments are just as insane.
Scott, women ARE more nurturing - to their own natural children. Solomon used this wisdom in the dispute over a baby. A woman is emotional. She lives and breathes in a stasis of multiple emotions, and they are what does the thinking for her. Ever wonder why a woman changes her mind every five minutes? Because she is inflecting her moods constantly. A person like this cannot feel empathy because she thinks with her hormones, which are very specific to her. The only one who might influence a woman's emotions with purpose is another woman, which is why we have women's lib. Interestingly enough, only in a heterosexually dominant society will a woman have that kind of power over a man. But a man has no idea what he's doing when he tries this. At no time is a man able to cry for what he wants - from anybody. Men can't even affect other men this way.
"So let me get this straight...it's OK for my mother to buy a car and fuel it and pay all the taxes and fees associated with said ownership but it's not OK for her to vote based on her chromosonal make up."
Pretty much, yep. Because she and her sisters are going to vote socialist totalitarians into power the first chance they get.
If you eliminated the male franchise, you'd have gulags and gas chambers operational within two generations. But it would all be done very nicely and humanely, I'm sure, with pretty notices of execution.
"Can't be permitted" is the favorite phrase of the feminist politician.
Better yet, build the wife a menses hut in the backyard. If her PMS becomes Perpetual Menstrual Syndrome, give her extra towels & notify the DMV of her new permanent address.
I had to go read a couple of pages worth of Trish Wilson and Feministe to flush out the unpleasant aftertaste.
- One wonders...what are they afraid of? Vagina dentata?
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Ye. Gods.
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Just astounding. I... What century do we live in?
And coturnix, I expect you to come over here and clean the cracker crumbs from my monitor. -
Sometimes I think Vox Day says this stuff because it gives him the explicitly anti womens-rights corner of the internets. Plenty of pundits think along those lines, but I guess he figures he's being brave by saying it.
He says he's afraid of socialist totalitarian governments. That would be fair enough, but it's not a very rational fear these days, and all the s.t. governments ever put in power were put there by men. Women have historically not been consulted. So that means it's a facade. He seems to have a real fear of a society dominated by women. Maybe his sister used to beat him up and his mother never took his side. He seems like the kind of guy who assumes a woman is a lesbian when she turns him down for a date. -
That's gotta be a joke though, right? If not does that mean that I could in fact support Minnesota State Republican Senator Michelle "Cruella de" Bachmann because she is by definition now a hormone-driven socialist, and will as a result of changing her mind every five minutes turn out not to hate gays or appear on the radio praying for the Rapture, and subsequently denying having done so?
Or maybe her odious and spooky and bigoted "Christian" agenda is singlehandedly couterbalancing the nice socialist wimmin we know and love. -
I say we deny suffrage to idiots who can't spell "Vox Populi" correctly.
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Wow; fascism, socialism and women in the same quote. That takes real .. er, balls. After reading all that tripe, I am glad I don't have 'em.
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Typical conservative twitness -- starts from a wrong and wrongul view of history, and then proceeds to complete and total error bordering on sin.
The "founding fathers" didn't say anything about women voting. History records that women voted in Connecticut, and other places, in the very first presidental election. There is no ban on women voting in the Constitution, and few, if any, in other "founding" documents. That bias emerged later, and didn't bloom until the late 19th century.
I suppose this nut will now argue that George Washington, elected with the vote of women, was a "socialist totalitarian."
Do these guys volunteer for lobotomies, or what?#: Posted by on 04/11 at 04:05 PM -
I've got a couple of morons on my blog now who are spouting all kinds of nonsense. I know one was trying to mainly get a rise out of me, but I caught her lying. She can't get out of that, and resorted to attacking me. Buncha jerks.
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If you want to see some idiots in action, check out the comments in this post on my blog:
Fathers' Rights Activists Bicker Over Bridget Marks
I need a can of Cyber-Raid.#: Posted by Trish Wilson on 04/11 at 04:43 PM -
Would anyone like to venture a guess as to how many of those comments were written by males? But seriously: exactly which hormones are specific to women? Perhaps the author of that puerile blurb should sit through a class in reproductive biology, wherein we find that male characteristics of the male brain come about partially due to the presence of estrogen in the brain during development (testosterone crosses the blood-brain barrier, gets converted to estrogen)?
It's rather funny that they talk about emotional responses driving women's logic functions. Because, while reading this same blurb, I had no emotion same a faint (very faint, mind you) note of puzzlement as I read (and reread, and reread again:
She lives and breathes in a stasis of multiple emotions, and they are what does the thinking for her.Ever wonder why a woman changes her mind every five minutes?
Look. "Stasis" means "a state of equilibrium", so said dolt is actually saying that the woman's state of emotions are stable. This is apparently not what the dimwit intended to say, since the dimwit goes through a nice self-contradiction in the next sentence.
And what the hell is "and they are what does the thinking for her"???
So. I am a woman. I say, unequivocally, that people that obtuse can kiss my estrogen-laden ass. To be sure that I am as unhindered by emotional vacillation as I claim to be, I will wait five minutes after I post this and reevaluate my position.#: Posted by on 04/11 at 04:48 PM -
"One wonders...what are they afraid of? Vagina dentata?"
It would seem so. Castration, at least symbolically. Sad.
Very sad. You can smell the fear. Also the unwashed
undies, stale sweat, and general odor of desperation.
P-ewww! - I just want to stand up for my gender and clearly state that being male doesn't make one act like those people. Being a dumbass does.
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Oh. My. God.
I was going to say, I'm glad you read this for the rest of us so that I don't have to go do so, but, well, I'm not sure I wasn't happier in ignorance...
(not that I didn't know there were folks out there who thought that, but now I REALLY know. And in Minnesota!!)#: Posted by New Kid on the Hallway on 04/11 at 05:01 PM -
Sufficient time has passed for analysis.
Results:
They are still idiots.
And they can still kiss my ass.
Discussion:
This has all the marks of a primitive power struggle within oneself over the feeling of impotence. If a man thinks that his superiority lies chiefly by how different he is from woman, then the simplest method of inflating himself is to accentuate what differences he believes exists.
Such logic can be: Women can't think--they only feel. I am not a woman. I don't feel compassion, or any of those girly feelings. Therefore, I am smart.
This requires no effort on his part to improve himself; all he has to do is degrade his competitors, to deem them so worthless that he denies that they are a competitive threat at all.
Intuitively, then, it can be argued that the very people that claim superiority and intelligence as their male heritage at the exclusion of women (and no doubt, homosexuals) are the very ones that feel most insecure at any threat to their illusions.
I would almost feel pity if it were not for the sad, sad fact such stupid people often have power, if only by numbers.
And then, of course, there are the stupid people in power for whom no numbers will ever justify their fuzzy logic.#: Posted by on 04/11 at 05:16 PM -
And the women that support this dumbass mindset, well, that's a whole stinkin' kettle of psychobabble fish.
#: Posted by on 04/11 at 05:19 PM
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If you eliminated the male franchise,
you'd have gulags and gas chambers
operational within two generations.
But it would all be done very nicely and
humanely, I'm sure, with pretty notices
of execution.
Comments like this can't be permitted without response. Gulags and gas chambers
already exist, and have existed for a long
time.
When we feminists win, gulag floors will no
longer be littered with dirty socks, and
gulag toilet seats will be put down. Gas
chambers will use only fresh-scented gases,
and will be tidied up quickly after each
use.
Of course, real control of our socialist
utopia will be in the hands of post-menopausal
women, who are not subject to the vagaries
of cyclical estrogen loads.
BWAAAhahahahahahahaaaaaah!#: Posted by Ereshkigal on 04/11 at 06:17 PM - Don't blame them, it's just a self-perpetuating cycle of misogyny. They're anti-social and insecure, they can't get girlfriends, they get bitter and hateful, they definitely can't get girlfriends, they become even more bitter and hateful, and so on. Maybe they'll find a submissive, self-loathing doormat to deposit their turgid seed into on a weekly basis and start to believe that all women secretly respect and admire their bitter hatefulness as much as she does.
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This is serious. Have you all read Stephen Ducat's "The Wimp Factor"? IMHO - the second most important book explaining US ideology/politics (after Lakoff's "Moral Politics").
This guy is voicing out loud what is (in a more hidden way) the main motivator of all Wingnuts: fear of women that leads to even stronger fear of being seen as feminine. Everything, from "tough luck" economic/taxation syste (F the poor) , through environmental policy (F the Earth), to Abu Ghraib (F the darkie foreigners) is just a piece of overt machismo that covers up for deep male insequirities. Read Ducat's book!
Search "femiphobia" and/or "femiphobic" and/or "Ducat" on Technorati and/or Google. -
Oh, I love this: ". . . in the way that women's organizations constantly attempt to force change on everyone, men and women, who don't want it."
Geez. And all those abolitionists in the Civil War, forcing change upon the slaveholding states -- they were fascists too? -
ancarett, if you'd read Vox Day's blog before, you'd know that they (Vox and his epigones) think that the American Civil War was an unconstitutional war, that Lincoln was one of the worst presidents ever (either right before, or right after FDR), and that, in fact, forcing abolition on the southern states was fascistic. So yes, according to their just-this-side-of-a-compound-in-Waco attitude, those abolutionists were fascists.
By the way Dr. Myers, did you ever read Vox's missive titled "The Irrational Atheist?" It's one of those cliche-ridden WorldNutDoily articles that could only have been written by a failed Christian fantasy novel writer using a pen name so that people won't know that he only has the job because his daddy runs he publication. - sorry, that last comment was me.
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It's rare you see men who are such textbook cases of Karen Horney's theory of Womb Envy.
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i'm confused. my latin is all in a jangle. vox day means tiny penis? or terminally insecure man? i'm too dumb to be allowed to vote? ok. we're piling on here. give the uh, man? some time to breath. he hasn't had oxygen in ten years and has gone brain dead. send him to tom delay for eternal care.
i notice vox day equates children and property. at least children are mentioned separately. wife must be subsumed under property.
pz--many of our gender are with you on that dumbass thing. the cheap joke here is "ask our wives" and i love cheap jokes. several of us commented without spousal review.#: Posted by dread pirate roberts on 04/11 at 08:37 PM -
Surely PZ, you must have better things to do than harpoon the intellectual equivalent of lutefisk.
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OK, I know I have Some Horney (pronounced Horn-Eye) books in here. While my wife is trying to find them in this mess, I turned to the internets (with her permission, of course) and here is a glimpse of what I found:
http://www.webster.edu/~woolflm/horney.html
On Womb Envy:
"Horney often criticized the work of Sigmund Freud. For instance, she opposed Freud's notion of penis envy, claiming that what Freud was really detecting was women's justified envy of men's power in the world. While penis envy might occur occasionally in neurotic women, she said, womb envy occurs just as much in men. Horney felt that men were envious of a woman's ability to bear children. The degree to which men are driven to succeed and to have their names live on, she said, is mere compensation for their inability to more directly extend themselves into the future by means of carrying, nurturing, and bearing children. She did not understand why psychologists found the need to place much emphasis on men's sexual apparatus. Furthermore, Horney desexualized Freud's oedipal complex, claiming that the clinging to one parent and jealousy of the other was simply the result of anxiety caused by a disturbance in the parent-child relationship.
While debatable, many agree that Horney's theory of neurosis is the best that exists today. She looked at neurosis in a
different light, saying that it was much more continuous with normal life than other theorists believed. Furthermore, she saw neurosis as an attempt to make life bearable, as an interpersonal controlling and coping technique."
And this:
"Horney thought it a mistake to think that neuroses in adults is caused by abuse or neglect in one's childhood. She, instead, named parental indifference the true culprit behind neurosis. The key to understanding this phenomenon is the child's perception, rather than the parent's intentions, she said. A child may feel a lack of warmth and affection if a parent, who is otherwise occupied or neurotic themselves, makes fun of their child's thinking or neglects to fulfill promises, for example. " - sounds to me like "Strict Father" parenting style of James Dobson, as described by Lakoff in "Moral Politics". - I'm just curious how these people can have made it this far without ever meeting women, because anyone who's ever actually talked to a woman would realize that what's being said at Vox Day is ridiculous.
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Oh, good grief...Vox Day's "women shouldn't vote" screed. He was banging on about that last June; I got into a long argument with him which was good for my hitcounter, but not much else. His other routine is calling for mass slaughter of Palestinians. I've got more here. His commentators seem to look up to him like some sort of cult leader.
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Though I have to admit, I kinda like the idea of having my own menstrual hut in the backyard (if we had a backyard).
But only if it has a Jacuzzi, a cable hookup, and a big comfy chair.#: Posted by on 04/12 at 12:12 AM -
His commentators seem to look up to him like some sort of cult leader
Can we hope for some kind of mass cult suicide?#: Posted by on 04/12 at 02:48 AM - Does this guy know Dave Sim?
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Bartholomew :
Thanks for the info . I just bookmarked your blog - great stuff!#: Posted by on 04/12 at 07:18 AM -
Off topic warning...
Dread, dude. Did I really have to catch you in the comments of a whole 'nuther website to find out you had a blog?#: Posted by on 04/12 at 08:31 AM -
The Vox Day people fell for the trap. The International Jewish Conspiracy managed to convince them that this was feminism so that they wouldn't knows Jews are behind all the immorality that is going on nowadays.
Speaking of obvious connections, has anyone missed the fact that higher literacy correlates with more socialism? Clearly everyone up to and including the 80th percentile of wealth must not be allowed to know how to read.#: Posted by on 04/12 at 09:55 AM -
I'm now suddenly filled with images of my hormones and my uterus at a fascist rally, chanting slogans and planning the PMS Day of Revolution.
In other news - those people? The armpit fungus of idiots. -
"Don't blame them, it's just a self-perpetuating cycle of misogyny. They're anti-social and insecure, they can't get girlfriends, they get bitter and hateful, they definitely can't get girlfriends, they become even more bitter and hateful, and so on."
Do you believe that man's worth is best measured by the women that he can sexually attract? This seems to be a common belief throughout the ideological spectrum (and is of course hard to deny), but it seems especially prevalent in the liberal side. I find this odd, considering how much liberals usually complain about objectification of women.
"Maybe they'll find a submissive, self-loathing doormat to deposit their turgid seed"
Interesting choice of words. Do you believe that men who are not sexually attractive to women are genetically inferior?
To go back to the original topic, I once read somebody write that the world ruled by men is basically nazism that puts down its weakest members just for the sin of being weak. World ruled by women and their favourite men is stalinism, which is basically the same as nazism, except that the prisoners of the gulag are constantly forced to say that their rulers are morally superior and admirable.#: Posted by on 04/12 at 12:48 PM -
In response to Ben's statement of,
Don't blame them, it's just a self-perpetuating cycle of misogyny. They're anti-social and insecure, they can't get girlfriends, they get bitter and hateful, they definitely can't get girlfriends, they become even more bitter and hateful, and so on."
Ilkka Kokkarinen says,Do you believe that man's worth is best measured by the women that he can sexually attract?
Ilkaa, you need to go read the post on the "Straw man"fallacyway of life.
Ben's statement is obviously suggesting that it is in fact Vox Day who believes as much, which can explain (though not excuse) why he has such a low opinion of women and their prospects for holding power responsibly.
Get it? He is just being a sore loser, and the game (as is being suggested) is the game of being successful (sexually or otherwise) with women.#: Posted by on 04/12 at 01:30 PM -
World ruled by women and their favourite men is stalinism, which is basically the same as nazism, except that the prisoners of the gulag are constantly forced to say that their rulers are morally superior and admirable.
Er, you do realize that "Stalinism" is named after an actual guy, right? So you know that everything you're attributing to "women and their favorite men" was, in fact, done by a specific man?
And if you think Nazi dissenters were never pressured and tortured until they hailed Hitler as the savior of Germany, you're frighteningly ignorant of basic history.#: Posted by on 04/12 at 01:33 PM -
Jeebus: "Ben's statement is obviously suggesting that it is in fact Vox Day who believes as much, which can explain (though not excuse) why he has such a low opinion of women and their prospects for holding power responsibly."
I reread Ben's statement and thought about it. Even so, I am just not able to read it the way you suggest. But if Ben himself comes to correct my reading, I will consider it to be so.
Mnemosyne: "Er, you do realize that "Stalinism" is named after an actual guy, right? So you know that everything you're attributing to "women and their favorite men" was, in fact, done by a specific man?"
I used the words "nazism" and "stalinism" to describe the properties of a system, instead of literally referring to the actual historical systems. So that point is moot.#: Posted by on 04/12 at 02:43 PM -
Ilkka -
I agree with your general premise. That is, if in a totally different context (devoid of mysogeny), Ben had come out and randomly said to a guy: "You're a loser because you can't get chicks," then Ben could be viewed (with some extrapolation) as being sexist.
But, Ben was simply positing a psychological explanation for a particular guy's ridiculous behavior towards women.
I'm not saying that Vox necessarily got rejected by some girl in High School, only to then dedicate his time to a life of woman-bashing and self-esteem issues.
But, I do think that it's a nice working hypothesis.
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I used the words "nazism" and "stalinism" to describe the properties of a system, instead of literally referring to the actual historical systems. So that point is moot.
Please point to the society run by women where "stalinism" as you define it occurred or is currently occurring.
We've got all night. We can wait.#: Posted by on 04/12 at 08:48 PM -
My God - I cruised through some of the old comments, and these idiots are actually taking "juristic names" seriously. (That's one of the schticks of tax protestors--the creationists of the legal world--that theorizes that the state only relates to individual people by giving them special corporate identities with fictitious names that are identical to their real names. The only difference is that the 'juristic' names are spelled in all caps. So if you don't like the court's jurisdiction over you, just disavow the name! In other words, John Smith doesn't have to pay a lien taken against JOHN SMITH if he tells the judge he's disavowing his 'juristic name.')
Addlepated nonsense. It's hysterically funny the first couple of times you see it in practice, really sad the next few times, and just boring and irritating after that. It requires a staggering combination of stupidity, ignorance, and arrogance to pimp that nonsense out as advice to other people.
Is reality really so onerous that Vox and his fellow travelers feel compelled to hide from it at every turn?#: Posted by on 04/12 at 10:39 PM -
Mnemosyne: "Please point to the society run by women where "stalinism" as you define it occurred or is currently occurring."
There are no societies run by women, so that would be pretty hard. However, the aspects of society that women currently do control are not really that "inclusive" towards many low-status men, to borrow a favourite word of progressives. We can see this from how such men describe women in, for example, Vox Day's comment area, at least when we read between the lines.
Usually when people feel oppressed they also know pretty well who is keeping the boot on their neck, and tend to get angry if they are expected to say that their oppressor is morally superior to them. Skillful misdirection can cause people to identify the wrong oppressor, but that rarely works in the long run.
It is also interesting that you object to my description of a women-ruled society as stalinism and demand an example, but had no objection to my similar description of a men-ruled society as nazism. I guess we can take it as a given.#: Posted by on 04/13 at 05:54 AM - So I guess you lefties have traded in Emmanuel Goldstein for Vox Day. You guys sure know how to extend a two minute hate...
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Some men are pigs! But I'm not, see..see! I'm Mr. Nice Guy date me I won't take away your vote! Grrl Power! Let's go to Lilith Fair! Dutch Treat!"
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I'm not saying that Vox necessarily got rejected by some girl in High School, only to then dedicate his time to a life of woman-bashing and self-esteem issues.
Okay, folks, this meme has grown old and stale. If every male or female who was rejected in high school at some point carried that scar on into adulthood, the world would be one messed up place....hey, wait! uh, okay, forget that.
I mean, if you ever stub your toe on a brick, do you only live in wooden houses from then on?
You lib-fems always pull that 'high school boy' thing, or the 'little penis' thing. It reeks of projection. Cut it out.
And how you turn readers and commenters on someone else's wildly popular blog into 'followers' and 'worshippers' and such? Cut that out, too. It embarrasses me for you, it really does. My contempt for Libertarians is well known. I read Vox because he has a good mind, even if most of his ideas are wrong. I also happen to think that his column of this week is right on, as well as his stance on women's suffrage. I also know for a fact that he laughs his taught, manly buttocks off when you girls squeal in indignation and begin to froth. -
Bane, I guess you're right.
Vox's attitudes towards women probably have nothing at all to do with his past interactions/relationships with women, and they certainly have nothing to do with his own insecurities.
In fact, I don't know where I went wrong! Women really are fascists!
Right.
Okie-dokie.
Bueno.
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Also, Bane...
For someone who apparently rejects folk psychological explanations for world beliefs, you were pretty quick to point out our so-called "projection" of our small penises and rejection-filled youths onto a self-made prick!
Oh, wait. Let me guess... you are a psychologist, right?#: Posted by on 04/13 at 02:20 PM -
Nana-nana-boo-boo you're a piece of poo poo. Jeebus and mussolini siting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G...
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Jeebus: No Bane is a scary motherfucker you probably wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley at night.
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Colin: After the post on Juristic names, the poster was flamed for talking out of his ass and it was suggested that anyone who tried it would go straight to jail after losing their case. Why do you paint all his readers with a broad brush because one person posted one juristic names?
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"I read Vox because he has a good mind, even if most of his ideas are wrong"
What if a mind for if not ideas?
To quote, Dan Quayle "a wasted mind is a terrible thing", and Vox's seems to be very wasted.#: Posted by on 04/13 at 05:06 PM -
Vagina Dentata!
What a wonderful phrase
Vagina Dentata!
Ain't no passing craze
It means no dick-waving
For the rest of your days
It's a subdental penectomy
Vagina Dentata!
Vagina Dentata?
Yeah. It's our motto.#: Posted by Chris Clarke on 04/13 at 05:07 PM -
"I read Vox because he has a good mind, even if most of his ideas are wrong"
What is a mind for, if not ideas?
To quote Dan Quayle, "a wasted mind is a terrible thing".
Vox's seems to be very wasted.
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I know the oppression of women, I used to be one until I had my adadictomy.
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Yes, Greg. You and I both know how much Mussolini (and the other Fascists) just love homosexuality...
...Probably because they are so damn secure in their own sexuality?
But, now I'm confused. In my experience, women tend to be quite fond of gay men. But, if women are also fascists, then do we have gay men living (ahem) "free" today solely because men are in power? This is assuming, of course, that a matriarchal (and thus, fascist) society would promptly eliminate all gay men.#: Posted by on 04/13 at 05:49 PM -
I know the oppression of women, I used to be one until I had my adadictomy.
Ahh! You've oppressed your former self!
That is blatant descrimination against women... to simply eliminate one just because you don't want to be one anymore.
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Jeebus
It is better to be uniformed than misinformed. Stops the confusion ya know. Women are fond of gay men because they find them non-threatning. Women see themselves as prey and men as predators. It is acutally quite natural, and a God given instinct. It has nothing to do with political power, or inter office power. Don't get me me wrong, the most infamous of political leaders have almost always been men. I think the term fascism is quite over used, but I do find more traits of that philosophy in women and gay men than I do in heterosexual men. I mean, there is no Dad against drunk drivers, just to name one. But it is nice to see, someone who truly wants to debate, and quits the name calling. You may not like Vox, but he will actually debate me, instead of insult. He may call me a name or two, but he does it in jest. And believe it or not, he likes for people to disagree with him on his blog, I haven't seen many of you over there.#: Posted by on 04/13 at 06:07 PM -
"That is blatant descrimination against women... to simply eliminate one just because you don't want to be one anymore."
I plead guilty, I have opressed women too, pass the hanky please.#: Posted by on 04/13 at 06:13 PM -
JohnR
"Jeebus: No Bane is a scary motherfucker you probably wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley at night."
Actually if you were in dark alley, you would want Bane with you. Don't confuse anti-PC with evil. It takes a while to catch his subtleties , because his rants blinding. I used to hate the guy until I figured it out. Boy, now he is gonna be mad at me.#: Posted by on 04/13 at 06:38 PM -
JohnR: Because Vox defended the poster against the (very few) people who pointed out his egregious stupidity, and because it's an interesting comparison to the mindset of creationists. I think Vox's fans share some traits with YECists and IDists, such as an abject failure to engage reality, and a demonstrated preference to operating inside an echo chamber.
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Colin,
Vox, and most of his readers, are in fact YECs.