PZ Myers. 2006 Jan 03. Miller lecture at Case?. <http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/miller_lecture_at_case/>. Accessed 2008 Dec 04.

Posted on M00o93H7pQ09L8X1t49cHY01Z5j4TT91fGfr on Tuesday, January 03, 2006

Miller lecture at Case?

Ken Miller is going to be doing a lecture (which was supposed to be a debate, but the opponent may not make it) on "The Collapse of Intelligent Design: Will the next MONKEY TRIAL be in Ohio?" at Case Western Reserve University tonight at 7PM. I heard from a source that it might be webcast, which would be good to see, but we haven't been able to find a URL for it. If anyone out there discovers it, let me know and I'll post a link here.

Of course it turned up right away: a link to the webcast.

Posted by PZ Myers on 01/03 at 01:56 PM
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  1. Case Dept. of Biology website has the url:

    http://www.case.edu/artsci/biol/debate.htm

    mms://mv-helix1.cwru.edu/wmtencoder/caselivewm.wmv (Webcast)
    #: Posted by  on  01/03  at  01:04 PM
  2. BTW, it's from a questionable source,

    http://www.evolutionnews.org/2006/01/schlafly_criticizes_judge_jone.html

    but there's a podcast

    http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?command=download&id=621

    of a debate between Stephen Meyer and Peter Ward.
    #: Posted by ekzept  on  01/03  at  01:34 PM
  3. Good to see my alma mater hosting something like this. (I did my Ph.D. in the Department of Physiology and Biophysics at CWRU and my surgery residency at University Hospitals of Cleveland, which is affiliated with CWRU).
    #: Posted by Orac  on  01/03  at  01:59 PM
  4. Thanks for finding the link to the Webcast! I will be attending this evening, and will take notes, especially on anything that might not show up in the Webcast.
    #: Posted by Prof. Bleen  on  01/03  at  02:24 PM
  5. I, too, will be trying to watch/listen to it, but I doubt Dembski will show.
    #: Posted by The Inoculated Mind  on  01/03  at  03:36 PM
  6. The latest issue of The Economist has a positive lead article on evolution. They call "Darwinism" a "secular religion" and think that's a good thing!
    #: Posted by  on  01/03  at  03:51 PM
  7. Well it started with a prayer. So was Dembski the opponent who bravely ran away? Maybe he was squatting in the bushes to watch a la Michele Bachmann....
    #: Posted by Eva Young  on  01/03  at  08:10 PM
  8. What a wonderful talk! Miller is articulate and personable. I particulary enjoyed the stories from the Kitzmiller trial. The statement that Miller was cross-examined on his early writing and his web site links rather than on his direct trial testimony is especially telling. ID has no “there” there.

    Also, I am pleased to mention that I could answer in the affirmative regarding the question of the uniqueness of human chromosome 2 because I had attended a talk by PZ Meyers in Minneapolis where he discussed it. Fascinating stuff. Evolution appears the only real explanation for what we see.

    LM Wanderer
    #: Posted by  on  01/03  at  08:13 PM
  9. Miller did a great job. Like LM Wanderer, I was able to answer in the affirmative on human chromosome #2, but for me it was because I read scigirl's famous post on the II boards.

    Since a lot of the talk was about subjects I've followed closely and was already familiar with, I was most taken by his points about the need for good science popularizers. That's why it's great to have PZ Myers & others like him in the blogosphere, and have the big boys like Atrios linking him now & again.

    Good stuff... I'm energized to work on this stuff in my little corner now...
    #: Posted by smijer  on  01/03  at  08:44 PM
  10. For those who missed it (I was there! Woohoo!) I'm scouting around to see if the webcast will be available in an archive somewhere.

    RBH
    #: Posted by  on  01/04  at  01:45 AM
  11. I'm hoping that Miller will post his powerpoint presentation. It was an excellent talk.
    #: Posted by Eva Young  on  01/04  at  02:08 AM
  12. I agree - that's why I like PZ's blog. I also like Brian Greene's books on Physics.
    #: Posted by Eva Young  on  01/04  at  02:24 AM
  13. So has anyone gotten word as to why Dembski didn't bother showing up? I thought the general ID propaganda spreaders never refused an opportunity to debate when given the chance. Did the Dover trial knock them that stupid?
    #: Posted by Joseph ODonnell  on  01/04  at  02:12 PM
  14. The statement that Miller was cross-examined on his early writing and his web site links rather than on his direct trial testimony is especially telling. ID has no “there” there.


    Interesting conclusion, since Miller spent some time during his talk on earlier unpublished edits of "Pandas" that were at issue in the trial. I would think earlier published versions of his textbook might be relevant as well.
    #: Posted by  on  01/04  at  04:30 PM